Explicit Ep 23 🌈 Getting over school PE trauma
Ep. 23

Ep 23 🌈 Getting over school PE trauma

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Welcome to Episode 23 of The Outlifting Lounge, the weekly show serving queer conversation, news, and no-nonsense fitness for gay, bi, and trans guys.

In this episode, Alan and Derec dive into the latest Drag Race news, discuss a landmark LGBTQ+ legal victory, talk about reclaiming fitness as a queer adult, and much more.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - Welcome to Episode 23!

00:06:54 - Drag Race All Stars is coming

00:13:00 - Landmark victory: LGBTQ rights in European courts

00:16:19 - Healing school PE trauma

00:25:11 - The sexual health benefits of cardiovascular training

00:34:36 - Reclaim your fitness with online coaching


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0:00

Keep you ticking over.

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Yeah.

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And ticking up.

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Dicking over.

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Dicking over and dicking up.

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Welcome to The Outlifting Lounge, the weekly show saving queer conversation,

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news, and no-nonsense fitness for gay, bi, and trans guys.

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I'm Alan.

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And I'm his husband, Derec.

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Coming up today, we discuss the new season of Drag Race

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All Stars, celebrate an amazing LGBT victory in the European courts,

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talk about reclaiming fitness as a queer adult, and much more.

0:34

Let's start the show.

0:35

We probably should start off the show by saying

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good luck to everybody running the London Marathon today.

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I know, I can't believe that's came around again already,

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but especially to our two clients, Stuart and Michael.

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So Stuart is a marathon runner.

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He runs marathons quite often.

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He just did Rome a couple of weeks ago.

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But this is Michael's first marathon, and I spoke to him during

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the week, and he said it's probably his first and his last.

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Everybody says that.

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I said that before I ran my first marathon.

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And you know what?

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Once you do it, and you get that high, you just feel absolutely

1:09

unstoppable, and you start thinking, oh, maybe I will run another one.

1:13

And that's how it happens.

1:14

Nah.

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I said to Michael during the week that you are the runner out

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of the two of us, because I don't even run for a bus.

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But it's super exciting that his first marathon is going to be

1:24

London, because obviously you ran that a few years ago, and you

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said it was the best one that you ever did.

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Yeah, yeah, the only thing you run is a bath.

1:32

I know, but I don't even do that here, and I love a bath.

1:35

I'm raging we don't have a bath in our house.

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Yeah, I did the London Marathon in 2019, and you know what?

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It's definitely by far my favourite marathon ever.

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So many marathons, you get good crowd support during sections of the race, but

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London is the only one that I ever ran where I would say 98%

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of the race had solid supporters on the sidelines cheering you on.

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And do you know what?

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It makes a massive difference.

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So during the London Marathon, there were a number of factors for me, but I

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managed to shave over 20 minutes off my personal best to get a sub 3:30.

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Here we go.

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Go on.

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Hit us with it.

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What was your PB?

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3:22:30

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which is, for me, that's really good because I

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had aspirationally hoped to get a sub 3 and a half hour

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so to actually get a good bit below that was really good.

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And I think a big part of it was all of that support.

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It's just, the London Marathon's such a buzz.

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The two guys are going to have an amazing

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time today, along with everybody else that's running.

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Yeah, they're very, very excited, and we're going to be

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watching them because we have their bib numbers, so we're

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going to be cheering them on from Gran Canaria.

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Yes.

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Unfortunately, we can't be there in person to cheer them on, but we

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will be on the sidelines with the race on our big screen.

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Gran Canaria is starting to get really busy now.

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We went through a lull after Easter, where we had a couple of quiet weeks.

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There maybe weren't as many visitors, but you

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can definitely see it's starting to get busier.

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There are some people who are already arriving for Maspalomas Pride, which starts in

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a couple of weeks, but there are also quite a lot of LGBT folk

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who are arriving here to squeeze in a quick holiday before the madness of

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Pride, so that they can be away before, because it just gets so busy.

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FYI, it's not a couple of weeks, it's a week tomorrow.

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So it is.

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Oh my God.

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It's crept up.

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It'll all be over in two weeks, really.

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Aye. It's crazy.

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My dad arrives a week today.

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He's going to be watching Haggis, our dog, because you are

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going to be working non-stop, and I'm hopefully going to go

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out and enjoy a bit of the Pride while you're working.

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Yeah.

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We'll manage to squeeze in some fun around that.

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We'll go out and socialise, and hopefully, if anybody is listening in, and

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you are going to be in Gran Canaria for Pride, get in touch.

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We'd love to say hello.

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We'd love to meet, catch up for a drink, whatever.

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If you're a listener of the show, please, please, please do get in touch.

4:06

Yeah, definitely.

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We love speaking to everybody that follows us

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on social media or listens to the podcast.

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So, if you see us, definitely come and say hi.

4:14

Derec is obviously going to be working in the Copacabana

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bar, which is on the ground floor in the Yumbo.

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So, if you're in there, definitely say hi to Derec, and I will

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no doubt be, I was going to say hanging about the Yumbo.

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That sounds terrible, but...

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Yeah, I will be.

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I'll be in the Yumbo at some point.

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And if you are in Gran Canaria, we do have a little announcement to make.

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So if anybody needs this service, we thought it might

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be important to talk about it on the podcast, because

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this week we went for a checkup at Checkpoint Canarias.

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Yes, it's the sexual health charity on the island, and they are located

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in the Eurocentre, which is literally a five-minute walk from the Yumbo

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Centre, and they do amazing work here on the south of the island.

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I go out doing some collecting work for them sometimes

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to raise funds because it is such a necessary charity

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to get assistance, to get rapid tasting for anything.

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It's really, really difficult on the island, especially as

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a tourist who isn't in the health system, which

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is why Checkpoint Canarias was basically set up.

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It's to make sure that there is a service

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that provides rapid tasting in a really understanding environment.

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If you are in Gran Canaria or you know anybody there and

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they do need the service, make sure they are aware of it.

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Our experience of going there, getting tested, it's

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such a nice, comfortable and friendly service, eh?

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Yeah, and they make it so easy as well.

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You can book online, you get your reminders.

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It's very, very easy to actually book an appointment and

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the whole process is super quick and super easy.

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And do you know what?

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Even if you don't need the service, if you are here and you see

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the guys out collecting for Checkpoint Canarias, please do give some money because the

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service is just so good and it is invaluable on this island.

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Really shocking statistic as well.

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So one in four of the tests that the clinic performs comes back positive.

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So that could be for any kind of STI or HIV or whatever.

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It just really underlines the need for it on the island.

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Yeah, and I'm sure during busier times as well, like Prides and things

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like that, it's maybe more tests are coming back positive as well.

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So it's super important that you get

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yourself there and get yourself tested.

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And also, you will not miss them out and about

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in the Yumbo collecting because normally during Pride Week, they're

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walking about with the two guys in amazing costumes.

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They're like real carnival costumes, aren't they?

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They're huge.

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So yeah, you'll definitely see them.

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So make a beeline for them and please donate.

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Yeah. I think we've talked about Gran Canaria enough.

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Let's talk about something even gayer.

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Well, here we go.

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- Drag Race. - Do you know what?

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This is the first time in a long time that we have been without Drag Race.

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And I actually thought this week that we weren't

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going to speak about it, but no, no.

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Drag Race All Stars has been announced and

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the cast has been announced as well.

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So of course, Derec was like, we need

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to keep it in the podcast this week.

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Yeah.

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So Drag Race All Stars Season 11 is starting soon.

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And it is very similar to Season 10, which had the three brackets.

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So there's 18 queens in total.

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And I think the first nine episodes will be

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broken up into those brackets with just those queens.

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That's a lot of queens.

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It is.

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But then they eliminate half of them.

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And then they all come together.

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You said that was a good thing last week?

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Depends who it is.

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So yeah, the nine winners of the brackets will all

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come together and then compete until they get a winner.

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And hopefully there's less controversy.

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about the winner this year than last year.

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Can't remember.

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Honestly, you remember so much and I'm just like, eh?

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It was Ginger Minj.

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Spoiler if you haven't watched last year's.

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Was it?

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Yeah, and then there was all the controversy.

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The toxic fandom went after Ginger Minj, basically.

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It wasn't very nice.

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She's nice.

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I know, we love Ginger.

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But we don't like minge.

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I don't like minge, no.

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But we do like Ginger Minj.

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She was, we thought she was a worthy winner, some people

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didn't, and some fans take it a lot more seriously

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than just a light entertainment TV show.

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- So yeah. - I'm surprised you're not one of them,

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actually, because you are a super fan.

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Yeah, but I'm nice.

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So, do you want to talk about some of the queens that are on?

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Who are you excited for?

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Hang on, and I'll get my notes.

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There's so many of them.

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I was just like scrolling and scrolling here.

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So, the three brackets are colour-coded.

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Bracket one is the orange bracket.

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We have got six queens in there.

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I think I'm quite looking forward to seeing Lucky

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Starzzz, who was from Drag Race 17 last year.

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They were really super creative, didn't have much money,

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but everything was made from scratch, from really cheap

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resources, like recycled materials, craft paper and that.

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So, I'm looking forward to seeing them come back.

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Hopefully, they've got a bit more finance behind them, because I

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think with their creativity, they can just do amazing stuff.

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Sorry, I'm just distracted by the pit crew

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in the background in all these photos.

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I'm going to say Dawn, because I like her little elf ears.

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I don't remember who half of these people are.

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Also, what I'm going to say about this bracket is we have

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got two queens from Drag Race Season 2 all the way back,

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one of which is Morgan McMichaels, so we love a Scottish queen.

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So yeah, we'll be rooting for her.

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Yes.

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Right, I'm colourblind, so I'm going to call bracket two the pink bracket.

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That may or may not be right.

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I'd say it's pinky purple, so let's go pink since it's gay.

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Okay, talk to me.

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I'm going to say Vivacious because her entrance look from

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her original season, season six, was one of the

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most iconic things because she fucked it up.

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So obviously she did the Ornacia thing with the block head

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on top of her head, and then it wouldn't open.

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Yes. Totally fucked up.

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Have you seen her promo look?

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Look at her promo look.

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Oh, amazing.

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I did say yesterday when we were talking about this that

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she definitely needs to bring that back because it's i-con-i-ca!

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Yeah.

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Ornacia is elevated.

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It's like Ornacia 2.0.

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I love it.

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It's such a good look.

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And obviously, it's with the colour theme.

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It's a massive pink gown with this beautiful Ornacia headdress in gold.

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Very, very good.

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I think you're going to say Silky Nutmeg Ganache for yours

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because she always brings the drama and you love the drama.

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I'm excited for Silky just for the lip syncs because she just is so silly.

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She always has ridiculous props.

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So I'm looking forward to seeing what she does with that.

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But actually, I'm really looking forward to Crystal

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Methyd, who again, has an amazing entrance look.

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She's weird, wacky, cookie, and I think she's even more elevated this time.

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Her makeup is phenomenal.

11:15

It's less clown, definitely more polished drag,

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but still with what makes her her.

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Okay, yeah, I can agree with that.

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All right, the purple one, or purple bracket, I should say.

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The purple one.

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The big purple one.

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I'm going to say Joey Jay.

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Yeah, because he's the trade.

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Because he's the trade of the season out of drag, yeah.

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Although Kennedy Davenport, because she is an actual all-star.

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Kennedy Davenport is an icon.

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There's a few queens that they always do callbacks to, so

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like Porkchop, for instance, has achieved immortal iconic status.

11:52

But Kennedy Davenport as well, because when they do

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the roasts, they always name it the Kennedy C.

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Davenport Centre For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Want

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To Learn How To Do Other Stuff Good Too.

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Do they?

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No, that's a Zoolander reference, but I

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just can't remember what they call

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The Kennedy C.

12:09

Davenport Centre.

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You're like a deer in the headlights looking at me, and I'm

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like, you know more info about Drag Race than I do, so

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why don't we just leave that there and move on?

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Yeah.

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Also, another Kennedy, Jasmine Kennedie, amazing, talented queen,

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and beautiful trans icon, stunning trans icon.

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Looking forward to seeing what she does.

12:28

Yes, very exciting.

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Starts on the 8th of May, so Drag Race is

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back again in about a week and a half.

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Apparently we're finished this section.

12:36

Alan just wanted to wrap it up there.

12:38

Yes. Okay.

12:40

Let's go from talking about fluffy gay stuff to talking

12:43

about some more serious but really good gay news.

12:47

Yes. Positive gay news.

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Because, you know, some weeks we talk about shit gay

12:52

news, and sometimes we talk about positive stuff, and this

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is actually quite positive coming out of Hungary.

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Yeah.

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So obviously we got the really amazing news from Hungary earlier

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this month that Viktor Orban has been ousted after 16 years.

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But now there has been a ruling in the European Court of

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Justice, which is the highest court, that a law passed in 2021

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that banned the promotion of homosexuality or gender change to minors violates

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core EU values, internal market rules, and data protection laws.

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Amazing.

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And for the first time, the court ruled that

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the foundational values of the EU, which is Article 2

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are not just aspirational, but are enforceable obligations.

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Yeah, so this law, obviously there are echoes of Section 28

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in the UK, and just like that law, the

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court has found that it stigmatizes and marginalizes LGBTQ plus

13:51

people, and wrongly associates us with criminal behaviour, like pedophilia.

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And again, that is like a lot of what we saw in the UK in the 80s and 90s.

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So it's awful that it's still happening in present day, but once

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again, the court systems in Europe are there to protect us.

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And obviously, you mentioned that there's a new Prime Minister,

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Pęter Magyar, I'm going to say is his name.

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Not sure how to pronounce it.

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And he's going to take office in mid-May.

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And he had a landslide victory, which is amazing.

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Although, during his campaign, he was silent on LGBTQ+ rights.

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But obviously, with this ruling, it's gonna fall on his shoulders to make

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sure that it's, you know, reversed, all the stuff that Viktor Orban did.

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Yeah, I think ahead of the election, I remember reading a quote

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from him, and he said something along the lines that he wasn't

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going to engage in these culture wars, and people just didn't know

14:44

how he was going to be on LGBT issues.

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However, when he gave his victory speech, he spelled out his vision for

14:52

Hungary, and he described it as a country where no one is stigmatized

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for thinking differently than the majority, or loving different than the majority.

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So very clear intention there that he is

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going to go in a different direction.

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And hopefully this ruling gives him a bit of power to be able to do that.

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And obviously we're hoping that it boosts the activists who are calling for the

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Pride ban to be repealed as well, because obviously there was the news, was

15:22

it last year I think it was, that the Pride Festival in Budapest was

15:28

not to go ahead because Victor Orban said that it's illegal basically.

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So hopefully that will be repealed and they can celebrate Pride.

15:37

Yeah, and do you know what?

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This isn't just good news for Hungary.

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This is good news for all of the EU because this ruling

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now is a precedent and it applies to the whole bloc.

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So we never know how things are going to go in the future.

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We don't know which EU countries might elect

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somebody who's a bit more extreme or right-wing.

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So this ruling is super, super, super important for protecting our rights.

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Yes, amazing, good, LGBTQIA+ news for once.

16:08

Yeah, if only the UK would rejoin the EU, we

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could have all of these benefits for the UK also.

16:16

Right, shall we move on to the fitness section?

16:19

Yes, let's do it.

16:20

Just before we get into the fitness section, remember that we

16:24

offer online coaching specifically for gay, bi and trans guys.

16:28

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16:32

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16:36

Okay, for today's fitness section, we're going to talk about something that was in

16:42

the press in the UK this week, and that is an Age UK campaign.

16:47

Now, I know that Age UK is aimed at a bit of an older adult

16:52

generation, and maybe not very many of our listeners might fall into that bracket.

16:59

However, I think the campaign that this is pushing

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is actually really applicable to younger age categories.

17:06

Maybe people in their 30s and 40s, possibly even people in

17:10

their 20s, want to start thinking about this stuff now.

17:13

So it relates to their campaign, which is called Act Now, Age

17:17

Better, and it's to encourage people to take up physical exercise as

17:23

soon as they can to protect themselves in their older years.

17:28

Yeah, I think when we read this article,

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it really resonated with us on two points.

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The first point, like you just mentioned there to, you know, take

17:36

up physical activity as early as you can, so that in your

17:40

later years, you're as physically and mentally fit as you can be.

17:43

But also the reasons behind why this section of the population

17:49

aren't as physically fit or doing any exercise in their later

17:53

years goes back to their experience of PE in school.

17:56

And that's what really resonated with us,

17:59

especially children of the 80s and 90s.

18:02

PE for us was, let's just say it, pretty traumatic.

18:06

Yeah.

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Being a gay young boy.

18:09

Yeah.

18:10

Yeah. So, some of the headlines around this, it's like, almost

18:13

half of midlifers are still haunted by school PE lessons.

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Olympians Kelly Holmes and Sally Gunnell are doing

18:21

a call-out to middle-aged Brits who hated PE.

18:25

And then again, the Age UK headline is, Millions in

18:28

Midlife, Put Off Exercise for Life by School PE Lessons.

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Now, again, as you've said, there is such an extra dimension to this

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that's been missed out, and it's LGBT populations who had, I think, I

18:44

think we, it's fair to say, a lot of us experienced additional trauma

18:48

from school PE classes that perhaps the general population might not have.

18:54

Absolutely.

18:55

We are of the generation that PE in school,

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basically, the boys were separated from the girls.

19:00

The girls played hockey and the boys played football.

19:04

Now, I can remember...

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This sticks with me.

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I mean, I'm 45 now, and this probably happened when I was 12 or 13.

19:12

Usually, I would go and play hockey with the girls.

19:15

Now, straight away, you're already singled out because

19:17

you're the boy playing with the girls.

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But this one day, for some reason, I had to go and play

19:22

football with the boys, and I remember the football was coming towards me,

19:27

and I jumped up with my forearms in front of my chest.

19:30

Don't know why.

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And the ball hit off of my hands.

19:35

So, obviously, it's a handball.

19:37

Apparently, that's a thing in football.

19:39

And everybody started shouting at me, and it was

19:43

just the most traumatic thing ever to experience.

19:46

Oh, I can do more traumatic than that.

19:48

There's nothing worse than being, well, there is.

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It's not competition, Derec.

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Don't give me more trauma.

19:53

I think most of us have drama from being smacked by a football in

19:57

the face, or even worse, being smacked by a football in the balls.

20:00

Yeah, that's quite bad.

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As well as that, you've got all of that kind of

20:04

stuff about being, like, picked last for teams, things like that.

20:07

There's just so much to this.

20:10

And it almost, like, I think for a lot of us, it can

20:14

make it seem like physical activity is not fun because it wasn't fun

20:20

in school for a lot of us for what we were doing.

20:23

I think I was fortunate that whenever we started doing, like,

20:27

track athletics and things like that, I really took to it

20:30

because I discovered that I loved sprinting, I loved all of

20:34

that kind of stuff, and I was quite good at it.

20:38

So I was always one of those those kind of kids that

20:42

was the fastest in their class who always did the sprinting and

20:46

the 400 metres and things like that at their sports day.

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So that was, for me, some alleviation from the other stuff, but that

20:55

was only for a short section of the year that we did athletics.

20:58

The rest of it was like football and things like that.

21:00

And I remember hearing it and just waiting and wishing for

21:04

the athletics part of our year to come around quicker.

21:08

Yeah, it's funny you should say that because I spoke to someone during the

21:12

week on a call that said that he has trauma from PE and that's

21:18

one of the reasons why he has a fear of going into the gym.

21:22

And I was like, that's so weird because we're

21:25

talking about that this week on our podcast.

21:27

And I think maybe you were lucky in a sense that you had athletics,

21:31

so it meant that you were part of that kind of fitting in crew.

21:36

You know, you were seen as one of the boys

21:38

because you were able to do your athletics, but a

21:41

lot of us didn't, unfortunately, have that during that time.

21:44

And again, if you didn't fit in, then you were just targeted, weren't you?

21:48

Yeah, and do you know what?

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I know I'm going back a bit, and hopefully things are different now, but

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I know for some queer kids, they weren't just targeted by their peers.

22:00

They were probably targeted by teachers as well in various different ways.

22:06

And that, you know, maybe it wasn't overt bullying.

22:09

Maybe it was just like little comments or being made to feel like

22:16

they were singled out or isolated or not part of the crowd.

22:19

Yes, I'm sure a lot of our listeners can relate to that and probably

22:23

remember having to run around the track because we did something wrong during PE.

22:27

It lives with you, it stays with you, and that is a big reason why

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a lot of our rainbow family don't feel comfortable going into the gym environment.

22:38

Cos there's that toxic masculinity in there as well.

22:41

Yeah, but it is, it's really, really super important to face this.

22:46

This is at the crux of what we want to get

22:49

to, because it's not just about doing exercise for the sake

22:53

of it, it's about for your own personal benefit.

22:56

When you're younger, in your 20s, in your 30s, possibly into your

23:01

40s, maybe it doesn't seem that important, but it really is.

23:06

It's like future-proofing yourself against illness,

23:10

injury into your older years.

23:13

And I know that it might seem a long way off now, but it really isn't.

23:19

We talked earlier, so I also work in

23:23

the Copacabana bar in the Yumbo Centre.

23:25

I absolutely love that.

23:27

I do that just because I love

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being out, being social, chatting with people.

23:31

That's an outlet for me outside of Outlifting, which is our business.

23:35

But that job can be very physical, especially

23:39

when we get keg deliveries and things.

23:41

I'm in my mid-40s.

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I can pick up a keg, no problem.

23:45

I can stack kegs.

23:45

I can do these things because I've done

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years of resistance training and other fitness work.

23:52

And do you know what?

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There's not a lot of other people in their mid-40s that could probably

23:58

lift a full keg, stack kegs, do this without putting their back out.

24:02

And I know that's just one example.

24:04

You may not have a physical job.

24:06

It is all about future-proofing yourself from simple things like

24:12

putting your back out, being laid up, not being able

24:16

to maybe do things that you want to do.

24:18

It's just you're ensuring a better quality of life as you get a bit older

24:23

if you just put in a bit of work now and do the exercise.

24:27

Think about it as paying into a pension pot or paying into insurance.

24:31

The more you put in just now, the more you're going to get out of it.

24:34

We sit quite a lot these days.

24:36

There are so many jobs that are sedentary, where we sit in

24:40

seats at a computer, and that is not good for your body

24:44

because there are so many physical effects that it has.

24:47

There are muscles that kind of shorten.

24:49

They add to problems like, you know, tight

24:52

hamstrings, tight back, all that kind of stuff.

24:55

And this kind of activity is really important

24:59

to strengthen the muscles that support your stability.

25:03

And yeah, it's to kind of stave off all

25:06

of these issues and protect yourself against them.

25:10

Okay, we've talked enough about the problem, so should we talk about

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some hints and tips about getting into exercise if it's something that

25:17

you don't do as often as you would like to?

25:19

Yeah, just before we do, I actually want to talk about

25:22

one more benefit, and we have talked about this previously, and

25:24

I will not stop talking about it because it's so important.

25:27

Sex.

25:28

I saw a clip from, I think it was Joe Marler's own podcast,

25:33

but Joe Marler, who, rugby player, really amazing guy, who was on the

25:37

Celebrity Traitors, was talking about morning erections, and he was asking a medical

25:44

professional on the show why he doesn't really get morning erections anymore.

25:50

And he's in his mid-thirties, I want to say.

25:53

He's not particularly old.

25:55

He's a young guy.

25:56

Now, there can be a variety of reasons for this.

25:59

It could be maybe testosterone levels dropping.

26:01

There could be reasons for that.

26:03

Maybe it's something that if you've experienced similar,

26:07

you might want to see a doctor about.

26:09

But one big factor in this is cardiovascular health.

26:12

So by, you know, doing some cardiovascular activity regularly,

26:17

you are kind of protecting yourself against these things.

26:20

So if you are a guy, a cis guy with

26:25

a penis, and you basically want to protect your sexual

26:29

functions, actually protecting your cardiovascular health is really super important.

26:34

And it doesn't have to be hours and hours of cardio either.

26:38

I would say two 20 to 40 minute sessions

26:40

a week is enough to keep you ticking over.

26:42

Yeah.

26:43

And ticking up.

26:44

Dicking over.

26:46

Dicking over and dicking up.

26:50

So, not only that as well, there is also the added benefit

26:54

of having stamina in the bedroom, being able to last, get into

26:57

different positions, having some thrust, being a power bottom, whatever it is

27:02

that gets you off in the bedroom, then you get all of

27:05

these added benefits from being physically capable and being fit.

27:10

And if you just want to be wee spoon as well, it

27:12

means that you can get into lovely little positions to get cuddled.

27:16

Doesn't have to be about sex and penetration.

27:20

That's enough about getting the tip.

27:22

Let's actually give some tips.

27:24

Loved that segue there.

27:26

That was brilliant.

27:27

So, yeah, as we've mentioned before, you know, walking

27:30

into a gym environment can be quite intimidating.

27:32

So, a good way to actually just go into

27:35

a gym and enjoy it is group fitness classes.

27:38

So, we used to teach quite a few group fitness classes when we

27:42

lived in Glasgow, and we loved that for the social aspect of it.

27:47

We got to meet people.

27:49

We got to see people grow in confidence when they joined the class, and I

27:54

don't know if it was just our classes, but it was definitely just a mix

27:57

of gays and girls that came to our classes, and whenever somebody came in for

28:02

the first time, or maybe a few times, to watch them grow in confidence over

28:07

the weeks and change physically was amazing, and they got to meet people.

28:12

They made friends in the class as well, and it was just

28:15

a really nice environment for specifically gay guys to walk into the

28:20

gym and actually take part in something and enjoy it.

28:23

So my own introduction to fitness, whenever I was in

28:26

my mid-twenties, so I kind of turned my life around.

28:30

I was a party monster.

28:31

I smoked, I drank, I did everything, worked in nightclubs, just

28:36

lived a really unhealthy lifestyle, and I had a bit of

28:40

an epiphany in my mid-twenties and decided to get fit.

28:44

So I stopped all of the badness and joined

28:46

a gym, and it was tough at first.

28:49

I found the actual gym environment okay, because it was a small gym.

28:54

I went at quiet times, but still, something didn't click

28:58

for me until I showed up for my first Bodypump

29:01

class, and I just, there's something about it.

29:05

It was just such a welcoming environment.

29:07

That's not to say it wasn't scary.

29:09

I didn't have to work up the courage

29:11

to get myself there in the first place.

29:13

It's difficult when you feel like you don't know what you're doing, and

29:17

everybody else is going to be experienced and know what they're doing.

29:20

But to bring myself there, and to have a welcoming instructor, to

29:25

have other welcoming participants, and to feel included was really nice.

29:30

And I think it goes back to what you say.

29:32

A lot of these classes, it is predominantly women who attend, and

29:37

there are quite a lot of gay guys who attend as well.

29:41

Because it does feel like a much safer space than the gym floor.

29:46

Yeah, absolutely.

29:47

Another good hint and tip would be home workouts as well.

29:51

There's lots of stuff you can find on YouTube to do home workouts.

29:55

You could buy some really cheap equipment from places like

29:58

Argos, if you're living in the UK, for example.

30:01

They have great dumbbell and barbell sets.

30:03

And a home workout is a really good way, again, of just

30:06

building your confidence in terms of knowing how to use the equipment.

30:11

And also as well, you know, exercising makes you sweat.

30:15

And, you know, just getting comfortable with being uncomfortable in

30:18

that environment as well, and how your body feels.

30:21

If you haven't done exercise in a while, you know, doing it in

30:24

an environment where you feel really safe and really comfortable is really important.

30:29

And then the next step might be, you're like, do you know what?

30:32

I feel confident enough now to go into a gym.

30:34

So that's another good way of starting off.

30:37

Yeah. And what I would say as well, so obviously the group fitness

30:41

classes that we taught were Les Mills classes, huge international brand.

30:46

That's things like Bodypump, Body Attack, Body Combat.

30:49

What we found is, so they have launched

30:53

an on-demand portal that you can subscribe to.

30:56

They've got lots of class videos online for a subscription fee.

31:01

What we found teaching those classes in a live environment

31:05

was that quite a lot of people, start their fitness

31:10

journey using the on-demand fitness and working out at home.

31:14

There was quite a lot of that, specifically

31:17

during the pandemic, but it still goes on.

31:19

And then, once those people feel that they are more confident

31:23

in their fitness, they kind of graduate and start coming to

31:27

live classes in the studio, which is really nice.

31:30

So you do actually see that in practice.

31:32

There's quite a lot of people start with the home

31:35

workouts, build their confidence, build their fitness, and then feel

31:38

that they can then go into that gym environment.

31:41

So again, if that's what you think you might need, definitely do that.

31:44

Try it.

31:45

And I mean, everybody's situation is different.

31:48

So if you're listening to this and you're wondering, do you know what, I

31:52

don't know what is right for me, I don't know what my first step

31:55

should be, or how I build that confidence, reach out to us.

31:58

We love speaking to people.

32:00

We love helping people.

32:01

We always want to see people, you know, do well and do their best.

32:06

So yeah, drop us a message and we can help you get unstuck.

32:09

If you're just feeling a bit stuck at the minute.

32:12

Yeah, definitely.

32:13

What I would also say in terms of finding your fitness, finding

32:18

your love for fitness, or just reclaiming your fitness, find something that's fun.

32:23

It does not necessarily have to be in a gym.

32:25

Quite a lot of what we talk about is gym focused,

32:29

but you know, if you like running or you think you

32:32

want to get into it, there are lots of running clubs.

32:36

There are LGBT specific running clubs, usually the Frontrunners,

32:40

and they tend to be in main cities internationally.

32:43

There are LGBT rugby clubs, soccer clubs, badminton clubs.

32:50

There's so many out there where you can not only get into the sport,

32:56

but you have got a safe space with like-minded people of our community.

33:02

So whatever gets you moving, obviously, I think

33:05

as you get older, resistance training is important.

33:10

So it's good to get your fitness levels up, get into

33:13

it, gym and do some kind of weight work to protect

33:17

your muscle mass and your bones as you grow older.

33:20

But to just get yourself moving, to get that cardiovascular health, maybe

33:26

things like running or a different sport or whatever it is, badminton,

33:31

just to get the heart pumping is good as well.

33:34

So hopefully you've got some really good hints and tips there.

33:39

But remember, you know, taking the first step is often the hardest, but

33:43

it's also the one that changes everything and we totally understand that.

33:48

And if you're in the position where you feel like you want to take that

33:51

first step, why don't you reach out to us and we can have a chat?

33:55

Yeah, look, this is all about being

33:58

strong, healthy, capable as you grow older.

34:02

I think the one final thought that I would leave you with

34:06

is, if you do have that kind of trauma, that hangover from

34:11

school, from PE classes, whatever, you know, it's not school anymore.

34:18

We own these spaces.

34:20

We have our own spaces.

34:22

We can reclaim our fitness, and we can be happy.

34:25

So, as Alan said, reach out to us.

34:28

Either if you just want to ask some questions,

34:31

or you're looking for some advice, reach out.

34:33

If however you think you might benefit from our help,

34:36

obviously, we run Outlifting, which is an online coaching business,

34:41

specifically for gay, bi, and trans guys who want to

34:45

change their bodies physically, but also grow in amazing confidence.

34:50

So if that sounds like the kind of thing that you

34:53

might want to help with, you can join the pride.

34:56

It's an ever-growing group of gay, bi, and trans guys who

35:00

are on their Outlifting journey and achieving absolutely amazing things.

35:05

So to do that, just click the link in the show notes to

35:09

book in for a free, absolutely no-obligation discovery call with one of us.

35:16

You choose your date, your time, we'll meet by video.

35:20

You can chat with us about what it is you want to achieve.

35:23

We can have a chat with you about how we can

35:26

help through bespoke coaching, nutrition, and accountability programming, and then you

35:32

can decide if we're a good fit for you.

35:34

So click the link, we'd love to meet you.

35:37

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35:42

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35:47

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35:52

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