1 00:00:00,310 --> 00:00:01,010 Keep you ticking over. 2 00:00:01,010 --> 00:00:01,840 Yeah. 3 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:02,870 And ticking up. 4 00:00:02,870 --> 00:00:04,480 Dicking over. 5 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,220 Dicking over and dicking up. 6 00:00:06,220 --> 00:00:13,110 Welcome to The Outlifting Lounge, the weekly show saving queer conversation, 7 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:17,280 news, and no-nonsense fitness for gay, bi, and trans guys. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,380 I'm Alan. 9 00:00:18,380 --> 00:00:20,370 And I'm his husband, Derec. 10 00:00:20,370 --> 00:00:24,000 Coming up today, we discuss the new season of Drag Race 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,950 All Stars, celebrate an amazing LGBT victory in the European courts, 12 00:00:29,820 --> 00:00:34,040 talk about reclaiming fitness as a queer adult, and much more. 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,470 Let's start the show. 14 00:00:35,470 --> 00:00:38,900 We probably should start off the show by saying 15 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:42,050 good luck to everybody running the London Marathon today. 16 00:00:42,050 --> 00:00:44,870 I know, I can't believe that's came around again already, 17 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:47,670 but especially to our two clients, Stuart and Michael. 18 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:49,380 So Stuart is a marathon runner. 19 00:00:49,380 --> 00:00:51,640 He runs marathons quite often. 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,840 He just did Rome a couple of weeks ago. 21 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,830 But this is Michael's first marathon, and I spoke to him during 22 00:00:56,830 --> 00:00:59,840 the week, and he said it's probably his first and his last. 23 00:01:00,690 --> 00:01:01,970 Everybody says that. 24 00:01:01,970 --> 00:01:04,980 I said that before I ran my first marathon. 25 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:06,530 And you know what? 26 00:01:06,530 --> 00:01:09,450 Once you do it, and you get that high, you just feel absolutely 27 00:01:09,450 --> 00:01:13,120 unstoppable, and you start thinking, oh, maybe I will run another one. 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,430 And that's how it happens. 29 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:15,250 Nah. 30 00:01:15,250 --> 00:01:18,220 I said to Michael during the week that you are the runner out 31 00:01:18,220 --> 00:01:20,830 of the two of us, because I don't even run for a bus. 32 00:01:20,830 --> 00:01:24,140 But it's super exciting that his first marathon is going to be 33 00:01:24,140 --> 00:01:27,570 London, because obviously you ran that a few years ago, and you 34 00:01:27,570 --> 00:01:30,010 said it was the best one that you ever did. 35 00:01:30,070 --> 00:01:32,410 Yeah, yeah, the only thing you run is a bath. 36 00:01:32,410 --> 00:01:35,520 I know, but I don't even do that here, and I love a bath. 37 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,660 I'm raging we don't have a bath in our house. 38 00:01:37,660 --> 00:01:42,580 Yeah, I did the London Marathon in 2019, and you know what? 39 00:01:42,580 --> 00:01:46,130 It's definitely by far my favourite marathon ever. 40 00:01:46,130 --> 00:01:51,540 So many marathons, you get good crowd support during sections of the race, but 41 00:01:51,540 --> 00:01:55,720 London is the only one that I ever ran where I would say 98% 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,300 of the race had solid supporters on the sidelines cheering you on. 43 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,750 And do you know what? 44 00:02:01,750 --> 00:02:03,590 It makes a massive difference. 45 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:08,400 So during the London Marathon, there were a number of factors for me, but I 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,360 managed to shave over 20 minutes off my personal best to get a sub 3:30. 47 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:13,860 Here we go. 48 00:02:13,860 --> 00:02:14,510 Go on. 49 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:15,150 Hit us with it. 50 00:02:15,150 --> 00:02:15,930 What was your PB? 51 00:02:15,930 --> 00:02:18,200 3:22:30 52 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,230 which is, for me, that's really good because I 53 00:02:21,230 --> 00:02:24,680 had aspirationally hoped to get a sub 3 and a half hour 54 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,260 so to actually get a good bit below that was really good. 55 00:02:29,260 --> 00:02:32,200 And I think a big part of it was all of that support. 56 00:02:32,340 --> 00:02:34,450 It's just, the London Marathon's such a buzz. 57 00:02:34,450 --> 00:02:36,630 The two guys are going to have an amazing 58 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:39,490 time today, along with everybody else that's running. 59 00:02:39,490 --> 00:02:41,910 Yeah, they're very, very excited, and we're going to be 60 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:44,340 watching them because we have their bib numbers, so we're 61 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:46,420 going to be cheering them on from Gran Canaria. 62 00:02:46,420 --> 00:02:47,000 Yes. 63 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,080 Unfortunately, we can't be there in person to cheer them on, but we 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,310 will be on the sidelines with the race on our big screen. 65 00:02:54,310 --> 00:02:58,100 Gran Canaria is starting to get really busy now. 66 00:02:58,100 --> 00:03:02,620 We went through a lull after Easter, where we had a couple of quiet weeks. 67 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,970 There maybe weren't as many visitors, but you 68 00:03:04,970 --> 00:03:07,510 can definitely see it's starting to get busier. 69 00:03:07,510 --> 00:03:12,030 There are some people who are already arriving for Maspalomas Pride, which starts in 70 00:03:12,030 --> 00:03:15,500 a couple of weeks, but there are also quite a lot of LGBT folk 71 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:20,280 who are arriving here to squeeze in a quick holiday before the madness of 72 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,010 Pride, so that they can be away before, because it just gets so busy. 73 00:03:25,010 --> 00:03:27,570 FYI, it's not a couple of weeks, it's a week tomorrow. 74 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:29,610 So it is. 75 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:30,950 Oh my God. 76 00:03:30,950 --> 00:03:31,940 It's crept up. 77 00:03:31,940 --> 00:03:34,300 It'll all be over in two weeks, really. 78 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:35,510 Aye. It's crazy. 79 00:03:35,510 --> 00:03:37,220 My dad arrives a week today. 80 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:40,490 He's going to be watching Haggis, our dog, because you are 81 00:03:40,490 --> 00:03:43,710 going to be working non-stop, and I'm hopefully going to go 82 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:47,300 out and enjoy a bit of the Pride while you're working. 83 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:48,130 Yeah. 84 00:03:48,130 --> 00:03:50,920 We'll manage to squeeze in some fun around that. 85 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,980 We'll go out and socialise, and hopefully, if anybody is listening in, and 86 00:03:54,980 --> 00:03:59,010 you are going to be in Gran Canaria for Pride, get in touch. 87 00:03:59,050 --> 00:03:59,840 We'd love to say hello. 88 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,720 We'd love to meet, catch up for a drink, whatever. 89 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,340 If you're a listener of the show, please, please, please do get in touch. 90 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:07,540 Yeah, definitely. 91 00:04:07,540 --> 00:04:09,730 We love speaking to everybody that follows us 92 00:04:09,730 --> 00:04:11,900 on social media or listens to the podcast. 93 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:14,920 So, if you see us, definitely come and say hi. 94 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,060 Derec is obviously going to be working in the Copacabana 95 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:20,930 bar, which is on the ground floor in the Yumbo. 96 00:04:20,930 --> 00:04:24,090 So, if you're in there, definitely say hi to Derec, and I will 97 00:04:24,090 --> 00:04:27,310 no doubt be, I was going to say hanging about the Yumbo. 98 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:29,330 That sounds terrible, but... 99 00:04:29,390 --> 00:04:29,970 Yeah, I will be. 100 00:04:29,970 --> 00:04:31,240 I'll be in the Yumbo at some point. 101 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,400 And if you are in Gran Canaria, we do have a little announcement to make. 102 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,420 So if anybody needs this service, we thought it might 103 00:04:38,420 --> 00:04:41,680 be important to talk about it on the podcast, because 104 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,040 this week we went for a checkup at Checkpoint Canarias. 105 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,380 Yes, it's the sexual health charity on the island, and they are located 106 00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:54,680 in the Eurocentre, which is literally a five-minute walk from the Yumbo 107 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,980 Centre, and they do amazing work here on the south of the island. 108 00:04:59,060 --> 00:05:02,740 I go out doing some collecting work for them sometimes 109 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:07,050 to raise funds because it is such a necessary charity 110 00:05:07,050 --> 00:05:11,900 to get assistance, to get rapid tasting for anything. 111 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:15,660 It's really, really difficult on the island, especially as 112 00:05:15,660 --> 00:05:18,300 a tourist who isn't in the health system, which 113 00:05:18,300 --> 00:05:21,340 is why Checkpoint Canarias was basically set up. 114 00:05:21,340 --> 00:05:23,790 It's to make sure that there is a service 115 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:28,500 that provides rapid tasting in a really understanding environment. 116 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,470 If you are in Gran Canaria or you know anybody there and 117 00:05:33,470 --> 00:05:36,790 they do need the service, make sure they are aware of it. 118 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:40,270 Our experience of going there, getting tested, it's 119 00:05:40,270 --> 00:05:44,790 such a nice, comfortable and friendly service, eh? 120 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:47,180 Yeah, and they make it so easy as well. 121 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:49,950 You can book online, you get your reminders. 122 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:53,290 It's very, very easy to actually book an appointment and 123 00:05:53,290 --> 00:05:56,270 the whole process is super quick and super easy. 124 00:05:56,330 --> 00:05:57,490 And do you know what? 125 00:05:57,490 --> 00:06:00,040 Even if you don't need the service, if you are here and you see 126 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,600 the guys out collecting for Checkpoint Canarias, please do give some money because the 127 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,390 service is just so good and it is invaluable on this island. 128 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:13,010 Really shocking statistic as well. 129 00:06:13,010 --> 00:06:17,800 So one in four of the tests that the clinic performs comes back positive. 130 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,320 So that could be for any kind of STI or HIV or whatever. 131 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,290 It just really underlines the need for it on the island. 132 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:28,950 Yeah, and I'm sure during busier times as well, like Prides and things 133 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:33,060 like that, it's maybe more tests are coming back positive as well. 134 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:34,400 So it's super important that you get 135 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,070 yourself there and get yourself tested. 136 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:38,600 And also, you will not miss them out and about 137 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,540 in the Yumbo collecting because normally during Pride Week, they're 138 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:45,570 walking about with the two guys in amazing costumes. 139 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:48,660 They're like real carnival costumes, aren't they? 140 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:49,800 They're huge. 141 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,040 So yeah, you'll definitely see them. 142 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,810 So make a beeline for them and please donate. 143 00:06:55,030 --> 00:06:57,900 Yeah. I think we've talked about Gran Canaria enough. 144 00:06:57,900 --> 00:06:59,890 Let's talk about something even gayer. 145 00:06:59,890 --> 00:07:01,170 Well, here we go. 146 00:07:01,170 --> 00:07:02,770 - Drag Race. - Do you know what? 147 00:07:02,770 --> 00:07:07,420 This is the first time in a long time that we have been without Drag Race. 148 00:07:07,420 --> 00:07:09,430 And I actually thought this week that we weren't 149 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:11,150 going to speak about it, but no, no. 150 00:07:11,150 --> 00:07:13,440 Drag Race All Stars has been announced and 151 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,010 the cast has been announced as well. 152 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:17,130 So of course, Derec was like, we need 153 00:07:17,130 --> 00:07:19,320 to keep it in the podcast this week. 154 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,010 Yeah. 155 00:07:20,010 --> 00:07:24,770 So Drag Race All Stars Season 11 is starting soon. 156 00:07:24,830 --> 00:07:29,130 And it is very similar to Season 10, which had the three brackets. 157 00:07:29,130 --> 00:07:31,270 So there's 18 queens in total. 158 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:33,680 And I think the first nine episodes will be 159 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,150 broken up into those brackets with just those queens. 160 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:37,370 That's a lot of queens. 161 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:37,940 It is. 162 00:07:37,940 --> 00:07:40,330 But then they eliminate half of them. 163 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:42,890 And then they all come together. 164 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:47,150 You said that was a good thing last week? 165 00:07:47,150 --> 00:07:49,130 Depends who it is. 166 00:07:49,130 --> 00:07:51,910 So yeah, the nine winners of the brackets will all 167 00:07:51,910 --> 00:07:55,680 come together and then compete until they get a winner. 168 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,270 And hopefully there's less controversy. 169 00:07:57,340 --> 00:07:58,990 about the winner this year than last year. 170 00:07:58,990 --> 00:08:00,170 Can't remember. 171 00:08:00,170 --> 00:08:02,790 Honestly, you remember so much and I'm just like, eh? 172 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:03,890 It was Ginger Minj. 173 00:08:03,890 --> 00:08:06,380 Spoiler if you haven't watched last year's. 174 00:08:06,380 --> 00:08:07,020 Was it? 175 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:08,740 Yeah, and then there was all the controversy. 176 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:12,660 The toxic fandom went after Ginger Minj, basically. 177 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:14,320 It wasn't very nice. 178 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,430 She's nice. 179 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:16,800 I know, we love Ginger. 180 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:17,790 But we don't like minge. 181 00:08:17,790 --> 00:08:19,450 I don't like minge, no. 182 00:08:19,450 --> 00:08:22,210 But we do like Ginger Minj. 183 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:25,120 She was, we thought she was a worthy winner, some people 184 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,850 didn't, and some fans take it a lot more seriously 185 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:32,220 than just a light entertainment TV show. 186 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:34,790 - So yeah. - I'm surprised you're not one of them, 187 00:08:34,790 --> 00:08:36,260 actually, because you are a super fan. 188 00:08:36,260 --> 00:08:37,740 Yeah, but I'm nice. 189 00:08:37,740 --> 00:08:41,790 So, do you want to talk about some of the queens that are on? 190 00:08:41,790 --> 00:08:43,610 Who are you excited for? 191 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:45,500 Hang on, and I'll get my notes. 192 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:46,540 There's so many of them. 193 00:08:46,540 --> 00:08:48,700 I was just like scrolling and scrolling here. 194 00:08:48,700 --> 00:08:51,280 So, the three brackets are colour-coded. 195 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,300 Bracket one is the orange bracket. 196 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:55,600 We have got six queens in there. 197 00:08:55,630 --> 00:08:58,720 I think I'm quite looking forward to seeing Lucky 198 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,130 Starzzz, who was from Drag Race 17 last year. 199 00:09:02,130 --> 00:09:06,220 They were really super creative, didn't have much money, 200 00:09:06,220 --> 00:09:10,000 but everything was made from scratch, from really cheap 201 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,620 resources, like recycled materials, craft paper and that. 202 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:15,380 So, I'm looking forward to seeing them come back. 203 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:18,820 Hopefully, they've got a bit more finance behind them, because I 204 00:09:18,820 --> 00:09:21,780 think with their creativity, they can just do amazing stuff. 205 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,070 Sorry, I'm just distracted by the pit crew 206 00:09:24,070 --> 00:09:25,900 in the background in all these photos. 207 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:31,920 I'm going to say Dawn, because I like her little elf ears. 208 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,560 I don't remember who half of these people are. 209 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:38,240 Also, what I'm going to say about this bracket is we have 210 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,270 got two queens from Drag Race Season 2 all the way back, 211 00:09:42,270 --> 00:09:46,780 one of which is Morgan McMichaels, so we love a Scottish queen. 212 00:09:46,780 --> 00:09:50,250 So yeah, we'll be rooting for her. 213 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:51,050 Yes. 214 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:55,050 Right, I'm colourblind, so I'm going to call bracket two the pink bracket. 215 00:09:55,050 --> 00:09:56,840 That may or may not be right. 216 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,880 I'd say it's pinky purple, so let's go pink since it's gay. 217 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,440 Okay, talk to me. 218 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,340 I'm going to say Vivacious because her entrance look from 219 00:10:05,340 --> 00:10:08,930 her original season, season six, was one of the 220 00:10:08,930 --> 00:10:11,040 most iconic things because she fucked it up. 221 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,550 So obviously she did the Ornacia thing with the block head 222 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:17,560 on top of her head, and then it wouldn't open. 223 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:18,670 Yes. Totally fucked up. 224 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:20,110 Have you seen her promo look? 225 00:10:20,110 --> 00:10:21,140 Look at her promo look. 226 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,630 Oh, amazing. 227 00:10:22,630 --> 00:10:25,520 I did say yesterday when we were talking about this that 228 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,020 she definitely needs to bring that back because it's i-con-i-ca! 229 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:29,560 Yeah. 230 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:31,480 Ornacia is elevated. 231 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,610 It's like Ornacia 2.0. 232 00:10:33,610 --> 00:10:34,310 I love it. 233 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:36,010 It's such a good look. 234 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:38,050 And obviously, it's with the colour theme. 235 00:10:38,050 --> 00:10:43,160 It's a massive pink gown with this beautiful Ornacia headdress in gold. 236 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,560 Very, very good. 237 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:48,270 I think you're going to say Silky Nutmeg Ganache for yours 238 00:10:48,270 --> 00:10:51,740 because she always brings the drama and you love the drama. 239 00:10:52,230 --> 00:10:57,520 I'm excited for Silky just for the lip syncs because she just is so silly. 240 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,120 She always has ridiculous props. 241 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,430 So I'm looking forward to seeing what she does with that. 242 00:11:02,430 --> 00:11:05,250 But actually, I'm really looking forward to Crystal 243 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:09,120 Methyd, who again, has an amazing entrance look. 244 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:14,110 She's weird, wacky, cookie, and I think she's even more elevated this time. 245 00:11:14,110 --> 00:11:15,770 Her makeup is phenomenal. 246 00:11:15,770 --> 00:11:19,200 It's less clown, definitely more polished drag, 247 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,400 but still with what makes her her. 248 00:11:21,620 --> 00:11:23,900 Okay, yeah, I can agree with that. 249 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:27,770 All right, the purple one, or purple bracket, I should say. 250 00:11:27,770 --> 00:11:30,120 The purple one. 251 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:30,950 The big purple one. 252 00:11:30,950 --> 00:11:33,370 I'm going to say Joey Jay. 253 00:11:33,370 --> 00:11:34,720 Yeah, because he's the trade. 254 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,540 Because he's the trade of the season out of drag, yeah. 255 00:11:39,540 --> 00:11:42,890 Although Kennedy Davenport, because she is an actual all-star. 256 00:11:42,890 --> 00:11:45,010 Kennedy Davenport is an icon. 257 00:11:45,010 --> 00:11:48,060 There's a few queens that they always do callbacks to, so 258 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:52,080 like Porkchop, for instance, has achieved immortal iconic status. 259 00:11:52,350 --> 00:11:54,700 But Kennedy Davenport as well, because when they do 260 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:58,040 the roasts, they always name it the Kennedy C. 261 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,700 Davenport Centre For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Want 262 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:03,720 To Learn How To Do Other Stuff Good Too. 263 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,010 Do they? 264 00:12:05,010 --> 00:12:06,840 No, that's a Zoolander reference, but I 265 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,620 just can't remember what they call 266 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:09,500 The Kennedy C. 267 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:10,710 Davenport Centre. 268 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:12,910 You're like a deer in the headlights looking at me, and I'm 269 00:12:12,910 --> 00:12:15,040 like, you know more info about Drag Race than I do, so 270 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,920 why don't we just leave that there and move on? 271 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Yeah. 272 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,620 Also, another Kennedy, Jasmine Kennedie, amazing, talented queen, 273 00:12:22,620 --> 00:12:25,850 and beautiful trans icon, stunning trans icon. 274 00:12:25,850 --> 00:12:28,670 Looking forward to seeing what she does. 275 00:12:28,670 --> 00:12:29,980 Yes, very exciting. 276 00:12:29,980 --> 00:12:32,280 Starts on the 8th of May, so Drag Race is 277 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,440 back again in about a week and a half. 278 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,420 Apparently we're finished this section. 279 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:38,130 Alan just wanted to wrap it up there. 280 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:40,160 Yes. Okay. 281 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,850 Let's go from talking about fluffy gay stuff to talking 282 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:47,800 about some more serious but really good gay news. 283 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,590 Yes. Positive gay news. 284 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:52,290 Because, you know, some weeks we talk about shit gay 285 00:12:52,290 --> 00:12:55,340 news, and sometimes we talk about positive stuff, and this 286 00:12:55,340 --> 00:12:58,090 is actually quite positive coming out of Hungary. 287 00:12:58,090 --> 00:12:59,020 Yeah. 288 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:02,950 So obviously we got the really amazing news from Hungary earlier 289 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:06,870 this month that Viktor Orban has been ousted after 16 years. 290 00:13:07,580 --> 00:13:10,930 But now there has been a ruling in the European Court of 291 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:16,300 Justice, which is the highest court, that a law passed in 2021 292 00:13:16,300 --> 00:13:22,750 that banned the promotion of homosexuality or gender change to minors violates 293 00:13:22,750 --> 00:13:26,950 core EU values, internal market rules, and data protection laws. 294 00:13:26,950 --> 00:13:28,340 Amazing. 295 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:31,110 And for the first time, the court ruled that 296 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:33,940 the foundational values of the EU, which is Article 2 297 00:13:33,940 --> 00:13:37,930 are not just aspirational, but are enforceable obligations. 298 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:42,760 Yeah, so this law, obviously there are echoes of Section 28 299 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,420 in the UK, and just like that law, the 300 00:13:46,420 --> 00:13:51,340 court has found that it stigmatizes and marginalizes LGBTQ plus 301 00:13:51,340 --> 00:13:56,310 people, and wrongly associates us with criminal behaviour, like pedophilia. 302 00:13:56,310 --> 00:14:00,870 And again, that is like a lot of what we saw in the UK in the 80s and 90s. 303 00:14:00,870 --> 00:14:04,450 So it's awful that it's still happening in present day, but once 304 00:14:04,450 --> 00:14:07,770 again, the court systems in Europe are there to protect us. 305 00:14:07,830 --> 00:14:11,740 And obviously, you mentioned that there's a new Prime Minister, 306 00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:14,330 Pęter Magyar, I'm going to say is his name. 307 00:14:14,330 --> 00:14:15,530 Not sure how to pronounce it. 308 00:14:15,530 --> 00:14:18,090 And he's going to take office in mid-May. 309 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:21,420 And he had a landslide victory, which is amazing. 310 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:25,780 Although, during his campaign, he was silent on LGBTQ+ rights. 311 00:14:25,780 --> 00:14:30,160 But obviously, with this ruling, it's gonna fall on his shoulders to make 312 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:35,040 sure that it's, you know, reversed, all the stuff that Viktor Orban did. 313 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:37,790 Yeah, I think ahead of the election, I remember reading a quote 314 00:14:37,790 --> 00:14:40,310 from him, and he said something along the lines that he wasn't 315 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:44,440 going to engage in these culture wars, and people just didn't know 316 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,610 how he was going to be on LGBT issues. 317 00:14:47,610 --> 00:14:52,300 However, when he gave his victory speech, he spelled out his vision for 318 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:56,380 Hungary, and he described it as a country where no one is stigmatized 319 00:14:56,380 --> 00:15:02,000 for thinking differently than the majority, or loving different than the majority. 320 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,550 So very clear intention there that he is 321 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:07,140 going to go in a different direction. 322 00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:12,930 And hopefully this ruling gives him a bit of power to be able to do that. 323 00:15:12,930 --> 00:15:18,370 And obviously we're hoping that it boosts the activists who are calling for the 324 00:15:18,370 --> 00:15:22,810 Pride ban to be repealed as well, because obviously there was the news, was 325 00:15:22,810 --> 00:15:28,000 it last year I think it was, that the Pride Festival in Budapest was 326 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,280 not to go ahead because Victor Orban said that it's illegal basically. 327 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,500 So hopefully that will be repealed and they can celebrate Pride. 328 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:38,770 Yeah, and do you know what? 329 00:15:38,770 --> 00:15:40,990 This isn't just good news for Hungary. 330 00:15:40,990 --> 00:15:45,620 This is good news for all of the EU because this ruling 331 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:50,540 now is a precedent and it applies to the whole bloc. 332 00:15:50,540 --> 00:15:52,930 So we never know how things are going to go in the future. 333 00:15:52,930 --> 00:15:56,590 We don't know which EU countries might elect 334 00:15:56,590 --> 00:15:58,580 somebody who's a bit more extreme or right-wing. 335 00:15:58,580 --> 00:16:03,650 So this ruling is super, super, super important for protecting our rights. 336 00:16:03,710 --> 00:16:08,910 Yes, amazing, good, LGBTQIA+ news for once. 337 00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:13,540 Yeah, if only the UK would rejoin the EU, we 338 00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:16,820 could have all of these benefits for the UK also. 339 00:16:16,820 --> 00:16:19,460 Right, shall we move on to the fitness section? 340 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:20,720 Yes, let's do it. 341 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,090 Just before we get into the fitness section, remember that we 342 00:16:24,090 --> 00:16:28,200 offer online coaching specifically for gay, bi and trans guys. 343 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,900 If you're ready to reclaim your fitness, stay tuned after this section for details 344 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:36,160 on how you can book in for a free discovery call with us. 345 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,110 Okay, for today's fitness section, we're going to talk about something that was in 346 00:16:42,110 --> 00:16:47,970 the press in the UK this week, and that is an Age UK campaign. 347 00:16:47,970 --> 00:16:52,490 Now, I know that Age UK is aimed at a bit of an older adult 348 00:16:52,490 --> 00:16:59,540 generation, and maybe not very many of our listeners might fall into that bracket. 349 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:02,430 However, I think the campaign that this is pushing 350 00:17:02,430 --> 00:17:06,430 is actually really applicable to younger age categories. 351 00:17:06,430 --> 00:17:10,280 Maybe people in their 30s and 40s, possibly even people in 352 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,550 their 20s, want to start thinking about this stuff now. 353 00:17:13,550 --> 00:17:17,920 So it relates to their campaign, which is called Act Now, Age 354 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:23,260 Better, and it's to encourage people to take up physical exercise as 355 00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:28,390 soon as they can to protect themselves in their older years. 356 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:30,920 Yeah, I think when we read this article, 357 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,280 it really resonated with us on two points. 358 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,860 The first point, like you just mentioned there to, you know, take 359 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:40,040 up physical activity as early as you can, so that in your 360 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,860 later years, you're as physically and mentally fit as you can be. 361 00:17:43,860 --> 00:17:49,110 But also the reasons behind why this section of the population 362 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:53,020 aren't as physically fit or doing any exercise in their later 363 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:56,640 years goes back to their experience of PE in school. 364 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,200 And that's what really resonated with us, 365 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,170 especially children of the 80s and 90s. 366 00:18:02,170 --> 00:18:06,760 PE for us was, let's just say it, pretty traumatic. 367 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,440 Yeah. 368 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,730 Being a gay young boy. 369 00:18:09,730 --> 00:18:10,240 Yeah. 370 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,920 Yeah. So, some of the headlines around this, it's like, almost 371 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,200 half of midlifers are still haunted by school PE lessons. 372 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,810 Olympians Kelly Holmes and Sally Gunnell are doing 373 00:18:21,810 --> 00:18:25,140 a call-out to middle-aged Brits who hated PE. 374 00:18:25,140 --> 00:18:28,410 And then again, the Age UK headline is, Millions in 375 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:32,820 Midlife, Put Off Exercise for Life by School PE Lessons. 376 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:37,680 Now, again, as you've said, there is such an extra dimension to this 377 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:44,120 that's been missed out, and it's LGBT populations who had, I think, I 378 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:48,610 think we, it's fair to say, a lot of us experienced additional trauma 379 00:18:48,610 --> 00:18:54,050 from school PE classes that perhaps the general population might not have. 380 00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:55,110 Absolutely. 381 00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:57,640 We are of the generation that PE in school, 382 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,720 basically, the boys were separated from the girls. 383 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,060 The girls played hockey and the boys played football. 384 00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:06,590 Now, I can remember... 385 00:19:06,590 --> 00:19:07,750 This sticks with me. 386 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:12,690 I mean, I'm 45 now, and this probably happened when I was 12 or 13. 387 00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:15,700 Usually, I would go and play hockey with the girls. 388 00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:17,930 Now, straight away, you're already singled out because 389 00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:19,730 you're the boy playing with the girls. 390 00:19:19,730 --> 00:19:22,930 But this one day, for some reason, I had to go and play 391 00:19:22,930 --> 00:19:27,540 football with the boys, and I remember the football was coming towards me, 392 00:19:27,540 --> 00:19:30,630 and I jumped up with my forearms in front of my chest. 393 00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:31,950 Don't know why. 394 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:35,360 And the ball hit off of my hands. 395 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,090 So, obviously, it's a handball. 396 00:19:37,150 --> 00:19:39,810 Apparently, that's a thing in football. 397 00:19:39,810 --> 00:19:43,270 And everybody started shouting at me, and it was 398 00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:46,110 just the most traumatic thing ever to experience. 399 00:19:46,110 --> 00:19:48,520 Oh, I can do more traumatic than that. 400 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,640 There's nothing worse than being, well, there is. 401 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,550 It's not competition, Derec. 402 00:19:51,550 --> 00:19:53,420 Don't give me more trauma. 403 00:19:53,420 --> 00:19:57,110 I think most of us have drama from being smacked by a football in 404 00:19:57,110 --> 00:20:00,460 the face, or even worse, being smacked by a football in the balls. 405 00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:01,800 Yeah, that's quite bad. 406 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,370 As well as that, you've got all of that kind of 407 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:07,960 stuff about being, like, picked last for teams, things like that. 408 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,290 There's just so much to this. 409 00:20:10,290 --> 00:20:14,320 And it almost, like, I think for a lot of us, it can 410 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:20,650 make it seem like physical activity is not fun because it wasn't fun 411 00:20:20,650 --> 00:20:23,550 in school for a lot of us for what we were doing. 412 00:20:23,550 --> 00:20:27,620 I think I was fortunate that whenever we started doing, like, 413 00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:30,920 track athletics and things like that, I really took to it 414 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,380 because I discovered that I loved sprinting, I loved all of 415 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:38,280 that kind of stuff, and I was quite good at it. 416 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,090 So I was always one of those those kind of kids that 417 00:20:42,090 --> 00:20:46,340 was the fastest in their class who always did the sprinting and 418 00:20:46,340 --> 00:20:49,400 the 400 metres and things like that at their sports day. 419 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:55,030 So that was, for me, some alleviation from the other stuff, but that 420 00:20:55,030 --> 00:20:58,070 was only for a short section of the year that we did athletics. 421 00:20:58,070 --> 00:21:00,610 The rest of it was like football and things like that. 422 00:21:00,610 --> 00:21:04,800 And I remember hearing it and just waiting and wishing for 423 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,600 the athletics part of our year to come around quicker. 424 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:12,860 Yeah, it's funny you should say that because I spoke to someone during the 425 00:21:12,860 --> 00:21:18,290 week on a call that said that he has trauma from PE and that's 426 00:21:18,290 --> 00:21:22,680 one of the reasons why he has a fear of going into the gym. 427 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,080 And I was like, that's so weird because we're 428 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,510 talking about that this week on our podcast. 429 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:31,940 And I think maybe you were lucky in a sense that you had athletics, 430 00:21:31,940 --> 00:21:36,720 so it meant that you were part of that kind of fitting in crew. 431 00:21:36,780 --> 00:21:38,620 You know, you were seen as one of the boys 432 00:21:38,620 --> 00:21:41,020 because you were able to do your athletics, but a 433 00:21:41,020 --> 00:21:44,650 lot of us didn't, unfortunately, have that during that time. 434 00:21:44,650 --> 00:21:48,590 And again, if you didn't fit in, then you were just targeted, weren't you? 435 00:21:48,590 --> 00:21:50,590 Yeah, and do you know what? 436 00:21:50,590 --> 00:21:55,830 I know I'm going back a bit, and hopefully things are different now, but 437 00:21:55,830 --> 00:22:00,550 I know for some queer kids, they weren't just targeted by their peers. 438 00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:05,200 They were probably targeted by teachers as well in various different ways. 439 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,760 And that, you know, maybe it wasn't overt bullying. 440 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:16,170 Maybe it was just like little comments or being made to feel like 441 00:22:16,170 --> 00:22:19,370 they were singled out or isolated or not part of the crowd. 442 00:22:19,370 --> 00:22:23,090 Yes, I'm sure a lot of our listeners can relate to that and probably 443 00:22:23,090 --> 00:22:27,810 remember having to run around the track because we did something wrong during PE. 444 00:22:27,810 --> 00:22:32,870 It lives with you, it stays with you, and that is a big reason why 445 00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:37,940 a lot of our rainbow family don't feel comfortable going into the gym environment. 446 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:41,620 Cos there's that toxic masculinity in there as well. 447 00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:46,580 Yeah, but it is, it's really, really super important to face this. 448 00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:49,010 This is at the crux of what we want to get 449 00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:53,130 to, because it's not just about doing exercise for the sake 450 00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:56,610 of it, it's about for your own personal benefit. 451 00:22:56,610 --> 00:23:01,920 When you're younger, in your 20s, in your 30s, possibly into your 452 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,960 40s, maybe it doesn't seem that important, but it really is. 453 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,240 It's like future-proofing yourself against illness, 454 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,960 injury into your older years. 455 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:19,440 And I know that it might seem a long way off now, but it really isn't. 456 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,700 We talked earlier, so I also work in 457 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,790 the Copacabana bar in the Yumbo Centre. 458 00:23:25,790 --> 00:23:27,120 I absolutely love that. 459 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:28,630 I do that just because I love 460 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:31,600 being out, being social, chatting with people. 461 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,650 That's an outlet for me outside of Outlifting, which is our business. 462 00:23:35,650 --> 00:23:39,270 But that job can be very physical, especially 463 00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:41,150 when we get keg deliveries and things. 464 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,750 I'm in my mid-40s. 465 00:23:42,750 --> 00:23:45,060 I can pick up a keg, no problem. 466 00:23:45,060 --> 00:23:45,990 I can stack kegs. 467 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:48,550 I can do these things because I've done 468 00:23:48,550 --> 00:23:52,500 years of resistance training and other fitness work. 469 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,420 And do you know what? 470 00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:58,790 There's not a lot of other people in their mid-40s that could probably 471 00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:02,370 lift a full keg, stack kegs, do this without putting their back out. 472 00:24:02,370 --> 00:24:04,890 And I know that's just one example. 473 00:24:04,890 --> 00:24:06,660 You may not have a physical job. 474 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:12,450 It is all about future-proofing yourself from simple things like 475 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:16,180 putting your back out, being laid up, not being able 476 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:18,450 to maybe do things that you want to do. 477 00:24:18,450 --> 00:24:23,950 It's just you're ensuring a better quality of life as you get a bit older 478 00:24:23,950 --> 00:24:27,720 if you just put in a bit of work now and do the exercise. 479 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Think about it as paying into a pension pot or paying into insurance. 480 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,480 The more you put in just now, the more you're going to get out of it. 481 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,860 We sit quite a lot these days. 482 00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:40,430 There are so many jobs that are sedentary, where we sit in 483 00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:44,030 seats at a computer, and that is not good for your body 484 00:24:44,030 --> 00:24:47,560 because there are so many physical effects that it has. 485 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,630 There are muscles that kind of shorten. 486 00:24:49,630 --> 00:24:52,780 They add to problems like, you know, tight 487 00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:55,290 hamstrings, tight back, all that kind of stuff. 488 00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:59,510 And this kind of activity is really important 489 00:24:59,510 --> 00:25:03,900 to strengthen the muscles that support your stability. 490 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,840 And yeah, it's to kind of stave off all 491 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,240 of these issues and protect yourself against them. 492 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,020 Okay, we've talked enough about the problem, so should we talk about 493 00:25:14,020 --> 00:25:17,110 some hints and tips about getting into exercise if it's something that 494 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:19,510 you don't do as often as you would like to? 495 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:22,030 Yeah, just before we do, I actually want to talk about 496 00:25:22,030 --> 00:25:24,940 one more benefit, and we have talked about this previously, and 497 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:27,680 I will not stop talking about it because it's so important. 498 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,960 Sex. 499 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,940 I saw a clip from, I think it was Joe Marler's own podcast, 500 00:25:33,940 --> 00:25:37,990 but Joe Marler, who, rugby player, really amazing guy, who was on the 501 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:44,600 Celebrity Traitors, was talking about morning erections, and he was asking a medical 502 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,460 professional on the show why he doesn't really get morning erections anymore. 503 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:53,480 And he's in his mid-thirties, I want to say. 504 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,180 He's not particularly old. 505 00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:56,490 He's a young guy. 506 00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:59,270 Now, there can be a variety of reasons for this. 507 00:25:59,270 --> 00:26:01,980 It could be maybe testosterone levels dropping. 508 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:03,750 There could be reasons for that. 509 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:07,180 Maybe it's something that if you've experienced similar, 510 00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:09,140 you might want to see a doctor about. 511 00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:12,330 But one big factor in this is cardiovascular health. 512 00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:17,490 So by, you know, doing some cardiovascular activity regularly, 513 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:20,920 you are kind of protecting yourself against these things. 514 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,170 So if you are a guy, a cis guy with 515 00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:29,130 a penis, and you basically want to protect your sexual 516 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:34,770 functions, actually protecting your cardiovascular health is really super important. 517 00:26:34,770 --> 00:26:38,160 And it doesn't have to be hours and hours of cardio either. 518 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,530 I would say two 20 to 40 minute sessions 519 00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:42,920 a week is enough to keep you ticking over. 520 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,680 Yeah. 521 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,780 And ticking up. 522 00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:46,380 Dicking over. 523 00:26:46,380 --> 00:26:48,110 Dicking over and dicking up. 524 00:26:50,180 --> 00:26:54,070 So, not only that as well, there is also the added benefit 525 00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:57,660 of having stamina in the bedroom, being able to last, get into 526 00:26:57,660 --> 00:27:02,460 different positions, having some thrust, being a power bottom, whatever it is 527 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:05,620 that gets you off in the bedroom, then you get all of 528 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:10,090 these added benefits from being physically capable and being fit. 529 00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:12,690 And if you just want to be wee spoon as well, it 530 00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:16,030 means that you can get into lovely little positions to get cuddled. 531 00:27:16,030 --> 00:27:18,260 Doesn't have to be about sex and penetration. 532 00:27:20,980 --> 00:27:22,890 That's enough about getting the tip. 533 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:24,030 Let's actually give some tips. 534 00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:26,180 Loved that segue there. 535 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:27,350 That was brilliant. 536 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:30,570 So, yeah, as we've mentioned before, you know, walking 537 00:27:30,570 --> 00:27:32,620 into a gym environment can be quite intimidating. 538 00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:35,510 So, a good way to actually just go into 539 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:38,870 a gym and enjoy it is group fitness classes. 540 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:42,890 So, we used to teach quite a few group fitness classes when we 541 00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:47,850 lived in Glasgow, and we loved that for the social aspect of it. 542 00:27:47,950 --> 00:27:49,100 We got to meet people. 543 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:54,040 We got to see people grow in confidence when they joined the class, and I 544 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,540 don't know if it was just our classes, but it was definitely just a mix 545 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:02,300 of gays and girls that came to our classes, and whenever somebody came in for 546 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:07,810 the first time, or maybe a few times, to watch them grow in confidence over 547 00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:12,480 the weeks and change physically was amazing, and they got to meet people. 548 00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:15,610 They made friends in the class as well, and it was just 549 00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:20,720 a really nice environment for specifically gay guys to walk into the 550 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,690 gym and actually take part in something and enjoy it. 551 00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:26,930 So my own introduction to fitness, whenever I was in 552 00:28:26,930 --> 00:28:30,090 my mid-twenties, so I kind of turned my life around. 553 00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:31,980 I was a party monster. 554 00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:36,830 I smoked, I drank, I did everything, worked in nightclubs, just 555 00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:40,070 lived a really unhealthy lifestyle, and I had a bit of 556 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:43,360 an epiphany in my mid-twenties and decided to get fit. 557 00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:46,570 So I stopped all of the badness and joined 558 00:28:46,570 --> 00:28:49,210 a gym, and it was tough at first. 559 00:28:49,210 --> 00:28:54,230 I found the actual gym environment okay, because it was a small gym. 560 00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:58,750 I went at quiet times, but still, something didn't click 561 00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:01,210 for me until I showed up for my first Bodypump 562 00:29:01,210 --> 00:29:05,270 class, and I just, there's something about it. 563 00:29:05,270 --> 00:29:07,100 It was just such a welcoming environment. 564 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,390 That's not to say it wasn't scary. 565 00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:11,480 I didn't have to work up the courage 566 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,890 to get myself there in the first place. 567 00:29:13,930 --> 00:29:17,010 It's difficult when you feel like you don't know what you're doing, and 568 00:29:17,010 --> 00:29:20,100 everybody else is going to be experienced and know what they're doing. 569 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:25,310 But to bring myself there, and to have a welcoming instructor, to 570 00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:30,720 have other welcoming participants, and to feel included was really nice. 571 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,490 And I think it goes back to what you say. 572 00:29:32,490 --> 00:29:37,850 A lot of these classes, it is predominantly women who attend, and 573 00:29:37,850 --> 00:29:41,360 there are quite a lot of gay guys who attend as well. 574 00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:46,100 Because it does feel like a much safer space than the gym floor. 575 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:47,410 Yeah, absolutely. 576 00:29:47,410 --> 00:29:51,940 Another good hint and tip would be home workouts as well. 577 00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:55,320 There's lots of stuff you can find on YouTube to do home workouts. 578 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,510 You could buy some really cheap equipment from places like 579 00:29:58,510 --> 00:30:01,280 Argos, if you're living in the UK, for example. 580 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,650 They have great dumbbell and barbell sets. 581 00:30:03,650 --> 00:30:06,540 And a home workout is a really good way, again, of just 582 00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:10,420 building your confidence in terms of knowing how to use the equipment. 583 00:30:11,710 --> 00:30:15,030 And also as well, you know, exercising makes you sweat. 584 00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:18,640 And, you know, just getting comfortable with being uncomfortable in 585 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,570 that environment as well, and how your body feels. 586 00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:24,720 If you haven't done exercise in a while, you know, doing it in 587 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,580 an environment where you feel really safe and really comfortable is really important. 588 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:32,520 And then the next step might be, you're like, do you know what? 589 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,740 I feel confident enough now to go into a gym. 590 00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:37,150 So that's another good way of starting off. 591 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:41,500 Yeah. And what I would say as well, so obviously the group fitness 592 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:46,200 classes that we taught were Les Mills classes, huge international brand. 593 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,830 That's things like Bodypump, Body Attack, Body Combat. 594 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:53,460 What we found is, so they have launched 595 00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:56,910 an on-demand portal that you can subscribe to. 596 00:30:56,910 --> 00:31:01,240 They've got lots of class videos online for a subscription fee. 597 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,680 What we found teaching those classes in a live environment 598 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,190 was that quite a lot of people, start their fitness 599 00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:14,950 journey using the on-demand fitness and working out at home. 600 00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:17,300 There was quite a lot of that, specifically 601 00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:19,410 during the pandemic, but it still goes on. 602 00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:23,670 And then, once those people feel that they are more confident 603 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:27,330 in their fitness, they kind of graduate and start coming to 604 00:31:27,330 --> 00:31:30,690 live classes in the studio, which is really nice. 605 00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:32,780 So you do actually see that in practice. 606 00:31:32,780 --> 00:31:35,010 There's quite a lot of people start with the home 607 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:38,510 workouts, build their confidence, build their fitness, and then feel 608 00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:41,000 that they can then go into that gym environment. 609 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,870 So again, if that's what you think you might need, definitely do that. 610 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:45,430 Try it. 611 00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:48,720 And I mean, everybody's situation is different. 612 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,770 So if you're listening to this and you're wondering, do you know what, I 613 00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:55,520 don't know what is right for me, I don't know what my first step 614 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,790 should be, or how I build that confidence, reach out to us. 615 00:31:58,790 --> 00:32:00,390 We love speaking to people. 616 00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:01,680 We love helping people. 617 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,090 We always want to see people, you know, do well and do their best. 618 00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:09,890 So yeah, drop us a message and we can help you get unstuck. 619 00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:12,170 If you're just feeling a bit stuck at the minute. 620 00:32:12,170 --> 00:32:13,250 Yeah, definitely. 621 00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:18,190 What I would also say in terms of finding your fitness, finding 622 00:32:18,190 --> 00:32:23,120 your love for fitness, or just reclaiming your fitness, find something that's fun. 623 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,970 It does not necessarily have to be in a gym. 624 00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:29,120 Quite a lot of what we talk about is gym focused, 625 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,540 but you know, if you like running or you think you 626 00:32:32,540 --> 00:32:36,180 want to get into it, there are lots of running clubs. 627 00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:40,650 There are LGBT specific running clubs, usually the Frontrunners, 628 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:43,970 and they tend to be in main cities internationally. 629 00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:50,770 There are LGBT rugby clubs, soccer clubs, badminton clubs. 630 00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:56,540 There's so many out there where you can not only get into the sport, 631 00:32:56,540 --> 00:33:02,080 but you have got a safe space with like-minded people of our community. 632 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,710 So whatever gets you moving, obviously, I think 633 00:33:05,710 --> 00:33:10,260 as you get older, resistance training is important. 634 00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:13,290 So it's good to get your fitness levels up, get into 635 00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:17,020 it, gym and do some kind of weight work to protect 636 00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:20,770 your muscle mass and your bones as you grow older. 637 00:33:20,770 --> 00:33:26,100 But to just get yourself moving, to get that cardiovascular health, maybe 638 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:31,200 things like running or a different sport or whatever it is, badminton, 639 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,970 just to get the heart pumping is good as well. 640 00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:39,250 So hopefully you've got some really good hints and tips there. 641 00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:43,040 But remember, you know, taking the first step is often the hardest, but 642 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,190 it's also the one that changes everything and we totally understand that. 643 00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:51,910 And if you're in the position where you feel like you want to take that 644 00:33:51,910 --> 00:33:55,160 first step, why don't you reach out to us and we can have a chat? 645 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,290 Yeah, look, this is all about being 646 00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:02,270 strong, healthy, capable as you grow older. 647 00:34:02,270 --> 00:34:06,640 I think the one final thought that I would leave you with 648 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,660 is, if you do have that kind of trauma, that hangover from 649 00:34:11,660 --> 00:34:18,140 school, from PE classes, whatever, you know, it's not school anymore. 650 00:34:18,850 --> 00:34:20,650 We own these spaces. 651 00:34:20,650 --> 00:34:22,070 We have our own spaces. 652 00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:25,140 We can reclaim our fitness, and we can be happy. 653 00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:28,740 So, as Alan said, reach out to us. 654 00:34:28,740 --> 00:34:31,100 Either if you just want to ask some questions, 655 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:33,380 or you're looking for some advice, reach out. 656 00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:36,850 If however you think you might benefit from our help, 657 00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:41,730 obviously, we run Outlifting, which is an online coaching business, 658 00:34:41,730 --> 00:34:45,350 specifically for gay, bi, and trans guys who want to 659 00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:50,310 change their bodies physically, but also grow in amazing confidence. 660 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:53,110 So if that sounds like the kind of thing that you 661 00:34:53,110 --> 00:34:56,060 might want to help with, you can join the pride. 662 00:34:56,060 --> 00:35:00,070 It's an ever-growing group of gay, bi, and trans guys who 663 00:35:00,070 --> 00:35:05,380 are on their Outlifting journey and achieving absolutely amazing things. 664 00:35:05,380 --> 00:35:09,970 So to do that, just click the link in the show notes to 665 00:35:09,970 --> 00:35:16,300 book in for a free, absolutely no-obligation discovery call with one of us. 666 00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:20,160 You choose your date, your time, we'll meet by video. 667 00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:23,930 You can chat with us about what it is you want to achieve. 668 00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:26,580 We can have a chat with you about how we can 669 00:35:26,580 --> 00:35:32,410 help through bespoke coaching, nutrition, and accountability programming, and then you 670 00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:34,660 can decide if we're a good fit for you. 671 00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:37,640 So click the link, we'd love to meet you. 672 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,540 And why don't you give us a follow? 673 00:35:40,540 --> 00:35:42,380 We are on TikTok and Instagram. 674 00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:47,090 And if you want to contact us, you can send us a DM via Instagram, 675 00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:52,310 or you can send us an email, and the email address is podcast@outlift.ing 676 00:35:52,370 --> 00:35:56,370 Thanks very much for tuning in. 677 00:35:56,370 --> 00:35:57,920 That is us for this week. 678 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,190 We have a new show next Sunday. 679 00:36:00,190 --> 00:36:03,150 Make sure you are subscribed on your podcast platform 680 00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:05,470 of choice to keep up with the conversation. 681 00:36:05,470 --> 00:36:08,360 But for now, over and Outlifting.