Drag Race, DOMS, & Major LGBT News 🌈 Outlifting Ep 15

Hello, and welcome to episode 15 of The Outlifting Lounge.

This is the show all about

pride, fitness, and everything in between.

I'm Alan.

And I'm Derec.

In today's show, we're gonna be chatting

about Drag Race UK Vs The World.

We will cover some really positive LGBT news,

and we'll be talking about DOMS.

Oh, kinky.

Other kind of DOMS.

Let's get the show started.

So Alan, how has your week been?

My week has been good.

My knee is almost 100% better, which is brilliant.

I've managed four workouts this week, which has

been really good, 'cause I didn't think I

was gonna get to the gym this week.

I also finished my third book of

the month, so happy about that.

And I'm just about to start reading

Followers, which is Darren Pickersgill's first book.

And his third book is actually out tomorrow.

It's coming out a day early, called Open.

So once I finish Followers, I'll then move on to that one.

And also, I was stuck in traffic for about two and a

half hours the other day, which is quite unusual for Gran Canaria.

Well, it's not really that unusual for

Gran Canaria, but when there's an accident

on the motorway, you're f***ed basically.

So I had to take a detour

up through Telde, which was quite pretty.

I haven't been up that way before, so it was

quite nice driving through different towns and seeing the scenery.

But by the end of it, I was done in.

How's your week been?

Eh, my tennis elbow's just getting worse and worse.

And yeah, I can't really train with it.

It's sore.

I can barely even open a bottle the way it is at the minute.

Resting it doesn't really seem to be helping.

So I don't know, I'm just getting fed up with it.

I'm a bit scunnered.

Might be time to go and see a physio.

It might be.

This is what we would tell our clients.

Yeah, I think the time's probably passed.

So let's, let's deal with that.

But yeah, apart from that, just getting on with things.

The weather is starting to brighten up.

It's starting to get a lot warmer here.

It's starting to feel like summer-ish.

So that's good as well.

Yeah, that's good.

Shall we chat about Drag Race UK Vs The World?

Absolutely.

It launched this week, and I have to say,

the first episode was phenomenal, really, really good.

Tens across the board and all that.

So I'm really looking forward to this series.

Yeah. I think it'll be good.

The entrance episode is always my favourite, 'cause I like to

judge them on their entrance looks and who they are.

Obviously, we know some of these queens because

it's like an all-stars, essentially, isn't it?

Even at that, though, I was

still like, who's that, who's that?

You're very good at remembering who people are

in these types of programmes, and I'm just

like, not a clue who these people are.

So this season is a bit different than the

other ones have been, because I think when UK

Vs The World started out, it basically felt a

bit like the UK Vs the English-speaking world.

So it was like queens from America and Canada.

Whereas this time around, there's

a really good international selection.

We've got somebody from Drag Race Sweden, Drag

Race Philippines, Drag Race Thailand, Germany, Mexico.

And we have not watched all of them.

We've watched Mexico, but we've not watched Germany, Sweden,

or the main Philippines or the Thailand seasons.

So these are new queens for us.

It's quite good.

Who's your favourite?

I've got a few.

No, one.

Favourite, not favourites.

I've got people that are favourites for different reasons.

So Kate Butch, I think is just so funny.

And she's coming into it with a really clear

point of view and an elevated version of herself.

So I thought it was a really strong episode for her.

I thought she was going to be in the top two, but

I can understand why they didn't

because they wanted a big spectacular first episode

and they wanted two really fierce dancers

in that lip sync at the end

and that's why they did it.

What, you're telling me that it's produced?

My other two favourites were Gawdland and Fontana,

who ended up in the top two.

Gawdland is just crazy in all the best possible ways.

See the way RuPaul describes like wackadoodle.

They're my favourite kind of queens, totally offbeat.

Like not your, I mean, looks amazing, like stunning,

stunning queen, but it's just totally out there.

A bit like kind of Jimbo, you know?

That kind of like, just not quite

what people perceive drag queens should be.

So yeah.

I think Gawdland is like the epitome of wackadoodle queen.

Just crazy, like absolutely bonkers.

My favourite, favourite, favourite look from that episode.

And possibly

one of my favourite looks of all time in Drag Race

was her runway look, her queen of my hometown look.

It was like the big prawn dish, and she had the thing

on her head, the headpiece, and it was all bedazzled.

It was just such...

She had the pincer as well.

Oh, that pincer was so good.

So, so good.

Yeah, so I'm hoping we see very good things from her.

I think she'll go far.

And I think as well, because we watch Slaysian

Royale, like, she is that kind of level of

the queens that were on there as well.

We were totally blown away by that.

Yes, a high calibre queen indeed.

And another high calibre queen, I would say, is Sminty Drop.

Another one that I didn't really

remember from her season from UK.

What season was that?

You'll know because you know them all.

I want to say season four.

She took her, you know how they always have their

exit lines, and hers was quite funny on her season.

But she took that for this season and then kind

of elevated it and kind of ran with it.

The same way, you know, Miss Vanjie

was a whole thing for her.

Like her slow twerk was a whole thing

for her when she left her season.

So this episode here was really good.

She owned it, which was brilliant.

Yeah, no, I agree.

And her runway look as well was out of this world.

It was so good.

I hope that there were no swans harmed in the

making of that dress, but it was so spectacular.

Yeah. Really simple, but just like hit the mark.

Fashion week worthy.

It was so phenomenal.

She has come back really elevated as well to hit it.

The only British queen that's come back,

so there's three of them,

that I'm not really rating so far is Zahirah.

I just think she's a bit...

Like, her Big Ben look on the runway was

whomp whomp!

Basic Ben? Yeah.

It was a bit more big bin than Big Ben.

Yeah, her Big Ben look was a bit crap.

And I thought it was a bit delulu of her

when she went back into

the Untucked Lounge to say,

oh, I thought it was going to be in the top.

It's like, you weren't really that good.

So I don't think she'll be in very long.

She seems a really nice person, though.

I feel awful trashing her

like I’m Michelle Visage or something.

But yeah. Yeah, it's fine.

Are you happy there's another season of Drag Race?

Yes, always, always love more Drag Race in my life, especially

when it's like an all stars slash versus the world.

Yeah. And then we'll have the Down Under one

coming soon that reportedly Michael Marouli is on.

Yes, we're very excited about that.

Fontana as well. Phenomenal.

I was not aware of Fontana's work and

presence before this, but she's so good.

Like every single look hit that

entrance look with the wings.

Incredible.

The runway look, the dancing queen look, so good.

Like, the attention to detail is brilliant.

Yeah, she's brilliant.

So she's Brazilian, but she

competed on the Swedish franchise.

Yeah. And some trivia as well.

So she is the first queen ever to

lip sync a performer's song while that performer

was a guest judge on two different franchises.

So the same thing happened in Sweden.

Loreen was a guest judge and she lip synced to a Loreen

song in front of Loreen and then did it this week on

UK Vs The World as well in front of Loreen.

So yeah, there you go.

And she wasn't in the bottom, it was a lip sync for the win.

Yes.

We should have maybe said spoilers by the way at the

start of this, but I think people don't know if we're

going to speak about something there's going to be spoilers.

Yeah, if we've just spoiled it on you, sorry not sorry.

Sorry not sorry.

What are you still listening for?

That's a good way of saying it, all right.

Yeah.

Before we wrap up the UK Vs The World

chat, I just want to touch on Melinda Verga.

I think she is going to be the drama.

She was so dramatic in Canada on her original season.

So maybe watch out for her.

The thing is about her season on Canada's Drag Race was,

I think she was just wanting the airtime and she got

it because she had an absolute meltdown during an untucked.

But she seems okay.

Well, there's only been one episode.

She seems okay so far, but there

might be some drama from her.

You've done that a few times.

I've had to edit it out, where you’ve

just had a big strop during the recording of this.

And it's usually you that pisses me off.

Screaming. No, I'm joking.

It's all harmonious.

I'm not joking.

Right, shall we move on?

Yeah, let's do some LGBTQ+ positive news.

So this week, the Council of Europe, which

is a body consisting of, I think there's

like 46 different countries involved in that.

It's not all EU countries, obviously,

but so the UK

is a member, Turkey is a member, things like that,

and all of the EU member states as well.

So they passed a resolution this week, and

it's really super positive because the resolution is

calling for the end of conversion therapy practices,

and the resolution is also trans-inclusive.

So the reason that this is so important

is because we've seen backlash in the UK,

for instance, from these so-called gender critical activists.

We're talking about really horrible transphobes here,

and that's the way they choose to

brand themselves as gender critical.

I will not call them that.

I'll just call them transphobes

because that's what they are.

So the transphobes have been trying

to stop the conversion therapy ban.

They want trans people excluded from it because they

think that trans people should be allowed to go

through counselling, as they call it, quote unquote.

Really, conversion therapy is a form of

torture, and it should never be allowed.

We hear really, really shocking accounts, literally,

because sometimes people have gone through electric

shock treatment and other things.

It's a form of abuse, and it

should be banned in all its forms.

And it passed with a huge majority as well.

71 for, 26 against, and 2 abstained, which is amazing.

Yes, that's really positive.

And although it's not a legally binding vote, in that it

doesn't require member states to now go ahead and pass these

bans, it does provide guidance to member states as well about

the direction of travel that they should be taking.

And really, I'm looking at the UK for this because

there has been a trans-inclusive ban promised for a long

time, and it has now been held up because of

the anti-trans moral panic, which really gets me so angry,

that's happening in the UK under the guise of women's

rights, when it's nothing of the sort.

It's just unbridled transphobia, masked.

It's the same hatred and bigotry that we saw

in the 1980s and the 1990s against gay people.

So yeah, the UK government really

needs to get its act together.

It was actually, incidentally, a UK Labour

politician, Kate Osborne, who is brilliant.

She is lesbian, and she's really super trans-inclusive.

She's fighting for all of our rights, so she

brought this resolution forward to the Council of Europe.

More power to her, but there need to be more people in

her party, and particularly the ones sitting on the front bench, who

are now going to deliver on this and make it happen.

As the viewers will probably tell,

we're quite passionate about this.

And like, props to Kate as well, someone that's

actually part of the community that's on our side,

unlike some other people who will not be mentioned.

Because they are part of that TERF community, shall we say.

Yes, they are people who history will forget.

Or they will be remembered the same way that Anita Bryant

is remembered by having a cream pie in her face.

That's the only thing she's now remembered for,

hatred and a cream pie in her face.

And that's the way these dinosaurs

will be forgotten as well.

But we will get through this.

We will persevere because that's what we do.

We have always existed, we will always exist, and

you cannot legislate us out of existence, you cannot

oppress us out of existence, so yeah.

And that so-called gender-critical group Sex Matters were

lobbying to have it rejected, so it's a

1-0 to us, I would say.

Well, more than 1-0.

Sex Matters have had an atrocious week,

like a really, really bad week.

It's just been loss after loss after loss.

They keep getting rejected.

They are not supported.

I'm going to throw in a wee Glasgow phrase here.

Get it up ye.

Get it right up them.

Honestly, it couldn't happen to better people because

they are just, they are the worst.

They are a rabid anti-LGBT hate group

that masquerade as a women's rights charity.

And they're nothing of the sort.

Nothing of the sort at all.

And the other big loss that they had this week was

in the High Court because they brought forward a case and the

judge threw it out and said, no, it's not happening.

Get it up ye.

Get it up ye indeed!

This all relates to the Kenwood Ladies

Bathing Pond on Hampstead Heath.

So this has been rolling on for years.

That pond is inclusive.

It's ladies only and it's trans inclusive.

There, again, the transphobe brigade don't like this, even

though the Kenwood Ladies Bathing Pond Association had a vote

on this a couple of years ago, and they voted,

there was a motion brought forward to exclude trans people.

And by a massive majority, they said,

no, we want to remain inclusive.

The transphobes didn't like that.

Sex Matters didn't like that.

So they said, no, we're going to take you to

court to force you to do something against your will.

Like, they're protecting women by forcing

women to submit to their will.

It's just bizarre.

Talk about being a little bit misogynist.

I know!

They really are.

It's so patriarchal.

It's so misogynist, the way

these transphobes and TERFs operate.

It is the worst.

But they're basically trying to force this.

So they brought it to the High Court, and the High Court

judge said, this has nothing to do with the High Court.

Off you go.

And he also admonished them because the City of London

Corporation, who has overall responsibility for this, is currently carrying

out a consultation, or was,

and the judge said, basically,

you shouldn't really be bringing forward a case.

You should let that process play out.

That is the statutory process.

So they got a double slap down

from the judge, which is good.

Please tell me that they have to pay for

all the court fees and stuff like that.

Well...

They're probably bankrolled by you-know-who.

They're bankrolled by the dragon lady who's sitting

on a mountain of kid's pocket money.

As Frankie Boyle once described her.

Yeah. She's basically just using this vast, vast, vast fortune

while she sits on the deck of her

superyacht, wherever she is in the world.

I hope she chokes on her f***ing cigar.

Wow.

They're bankrolled by somebody with very deep pockets, and

they will continue to bring these cases forward.

But do you know what?

They're actually losing case after case after case, and

they tried to overhype the Supreme Court verdict.

And basically, they've marched all of their followers and all

these froth-mouthed bigots up the top of a hill,

and they don't know where to take them now

because they've

led them to believe that the Supreme Court victory,

victory in inverted commas, was something that it wasn't.

And it doesn't mean what they say it means.

Like, for instance, this week, the head of the

Charity Commission came out and said charities should not

be excluding transgender people right now,

because the statutory guidance

is still being worked on.

The government are not happy with what the

EHRC brought forward, because again, that is an

organisation which was infiltrated by the transphobe brigade.

There were appointments made to that, and

it is not a neutral institution anymore.

It's full, it's just riddled with transphobia.

And the Charity Commission has basically said we need to

wait for that process to end, so you shouldn't.

So basically what that means is the

Girl Scouts shouldn't have changed their guidance, that the

Women's Institute shouldn't have changed their policies yet.

So hopefully we'll see some of that

change now, until that guidance is published.

The City of London Corporation actually published

the results of the two-month consultation.

On the same day as the High Court judge threw it out, yeah.

Over 38,000 people took part in it, and

86% agreed that it should still be trans-inclusive.

If that's not power

for the people by the people, I don't know what is.

I mean, if you look at the UK newspapers,

it's broadly transphobic, and they would have you believe

that the UK population is transphobic,

but it's not.

They're not against us.

They're with the LGBT community.

Most people can see through the hate and the division

that's being caused by really dark forces at work.

They will be defeated.

They will be yesterday's news.

We will get through this.

It's just horrible what's happening to

trans people specifically at the moment.

As long as we keep on shouting about it

and supporting it, then hopefully, you know, they'll all

disappear under a rock where they should be.

And look, we're talking about this.

This is good news this week.

There's so much focus has been on the

bad news and the things that are happening.

It feels like we are being

oppressed and attacked from all angles.

But look what's happening.

We're beating them.

They are losing.

And although they just keep coming and coming

with this endless stream of money

and lawfare

and vexatious court cases, they're not winning.

They are losing and they will lose.

They'll continue to lose and they'll be done with.

And that's the tea.

And that's the tea. Bye, TERFs.

Right, I think we have ranted

enough about horrible, bigoted, monstrous people.

Shall we move on to the fitness section?

Let's do it.

Okay, so we've reached the fitness section of the show.

And this week, we've got a Reddit post

that we found, which was really, really interesting.

And it's about DOMS.

So it's Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness.

So most of you probably know what this is.

If you don't, that it's basically the aches that you

get after a workout,

usually 24, 72 hours afterwards,

that could maybe last the same amount of time.

You know that feeling when you've had a workout,

and then you sit on the toilet,

and then you can't get back up again.

So you just decide, okay, this

is where I'm sitting for the day.

That's DOMS.

So we're going to have a wee chat about that.

Yes, this post is really good.

The reason that we wanted to include this today

is because this is something that is a common

misconception with people going to the gym, especially kind

of beginners or intermediate gym users.

So the title of this post is,

"If I'm not getting sore, do I need to lift heavier?"

So this person says that they lift four times a week.

They have been off and on for around three and

a half years with the gym, with occasional lapses.

They've noticed that they no longer really get DOMS

on the days after a heavy lift, unless they've

tried a new exercise that challenges their muscles in

a radically different way than they usually do.

They go on to explain that they eat

sufficient protein, they take creatine, they get sufficient

sleep, and they discuss their lifestyle.

But the basic question that they are asking is,

if the absence of muscle soreness is a sign

that they're not progressively overloading enough.

Is it a sign that they need to lift even more?

The answer is no.

Yeah, they describe it quite well,

actually, when they get DOMS.

It's usually when they haven't been to the gym

for a little while, or they've tried a new

exercise, and that's basically what is happening.

Your muscles are under a stress that it's not used to,

so your muscle ends up having microscopic tears, and then when

they start to heal, that's when you get the soreness.

So it's good because you're putting your muscle

under stress because we want it to grow,

but you don't want that consistently.

That is not a good thing to have in your body.

If you're chasing that all the time, stop doing it.

It's just that you're not getting it because your

muscles are used to the exercise that you're doing.

But as long as you're progressively overloading, so increasing

the weight, increasing sets, increasing reps, reducing your rest

time, you're still going to be progressing.

You don't need to have that pain, those

DOMS, for you to be progressing, basically.

Yeah, totally.

And there were some really good comments on this as well.

So some people replied.

Here's one, for instance, to say you should

NOT, in capital letters, be getting sore regularly.

Some stiffness here and there is fine.

That's what she said.

But you shouldn't be having DOMS all the time, for sure.

Another one said, if you're getting stronger and

truly approaching failure during your exercises, you're fine.

Soreness isn't universal.

People experience it differently.

Really good.

Another one. I have been actively and

religiously lifting weights since the late 90s.

The only time I get sore is after I take a week off.

And one last one.

Lack of soreness correlates with consistent training.

Gold. Absolute gold.

Because if you're not getting DOMS, it means you

haven't had that lapse in time, like that previous

comment said, maybe had a week off.

If you're consistently training,

you're consistently moving your body,

it's used to what you're doing, which is brilliant.

So yeah, that's absolute gold.

And I understand why people chase DOMS, because

they correlate that soreness to them working hard.

But if you just continue to progress, like we

said earlier, with those variables, that's you working hard.

You don't need to be chasing that pain

all the time, or at all, actually.

You shouldn't be chasing it at all.

That's the tea.

Yeah, it's the same thing.

I mean, people also make that correlation with sweat.

They think that they need to

be absolutely drenched in sweat.

Otherwise, they're not going to burn fat.

And that's not how it works.

But I think sometimes people need that physical feedback,

the sweat or the soreness, and they expect it.

So yeah, like I understand why.

But if you are tuning in, and that is you,

you want the muscle soreness, you think you need to

have it, or if you don't have it, then you're

not progressing, then it's your mindset that needs to change.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, totally.

That was a good Reddit post. Good find.

Good little tips, eh?

So shall we wrap up the fitness section?

Have you anything else to say about DOMS?

Or subs?

No, that's a different kind of show.

Yeah, right.

Let's wrap it up.

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