Online Coaching vs Personal Training: Which Is Right for You?

Welcome to The Outlifting Lounge, the show about

pride, fitness and everything in between. I'm Alan.

And I'm Derec. In today's episode, we'll have

a quick catch up on our week. We'll

have a spoiler free chat about the film

that everybody's been talking about, Wicked For Good.

And by the end of this episode, you'll

have a really good idea of which fitness

coaching style fits your goals, lifestyle and budget.

And we'll give you some red flags to

watch out for so you don't waste time

or money.

Oh, and stick around until the end because

we have an exclusive Black Friday offer just

for our listeners.

We're back, episode five, and this is actually

the third attempt at recording this.

So episode eight then?

Everything that could go wrong did go wrong

in the previous two attempts.

Yeah, it was lighting issues, recording issues.

Yeah, it's been a bit of a nightmare,

but hopefully this is the last edit or

the last take.

It needs to be. It needs to be

because I'm going insane.

We do say that it's released on a

Sunday, but this episode might be released at

23:59 tonight.

Oh, well. Anyway, how's your week been?

It's been good. Winter Pride is officially over,

which is nice because we're back into proper

routine again and structure, which I've touched on

before.

For me, routine and structure is like super

important.

So it's been nice just to get back

into things.

How have you been? You've got your voice back!

Aye, Stella's got her groove back.

I have got my voice back, which is

a good thing because it completely went, which

I think you were quite happy about.

No comment.

We actually took it quite easy over Winter

Pride.

It was kind of a working holiday for

us.

We were still working.

We were going out doing some things.

So we weren't really drinking.

You were too ill.

I was way too ill, but I think

shouting over loud music, trying to talk to

people really just made it worse.

And it completely went.

And then I was floored for days afterwards.

Yeah.

At one point you were like Phoebe from

Friends, My Sticky Shoes, and then you just became

ill.

I was like, oh, no, don't come

near me.

None of it was sexy, trust me.

None of it was sexy.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

Am I sexy again?

Yeah, you getting there.

Yeah, it's been nice getting back into routine

again.

And Friday we had a really chilled night because

we went to the pictures to see Wicked

For Good.

Why are you laughing?

The pictures?

Aye, all right, granddad.

The talkies.

We went to see a talkie.

What the hell?

Who calls it the pictures?

Anybody from Glasgow calls it the pictures.

Anybody of a certain age from Glasgow!

It's the pictures.

Cinema.

No, I'm going to talk to the camera

here.

Anybody that's from Glasgow, or the West of

Scotland,

please back me up here that it's the

pictures.

Leave a comment.

Let me know.

And when you leave in the comment, perhaps

say what age you are.

Because I have a theory.

I'm 44.

Alan and I are an age gap relationship.

A year and a half.

That's like dog years in gay years.

It's a year and a half.

I'm 44, Derec's 43.

I will sue.

Anyway, back to the pictures.

What did we go and see?

We went to see Wicked For Good.

We did, with our friend Nik, who was

super excited to see it.

Right, this is going to be spoiler free but

what I will say is I really enjoyed

it.

I thought it was a very good movie.

It was good, but I think I prefer

the first one to the second one.

Yes, I agree with you.

The second film is a bit darker,

and it doesn't really have all the kind

of tunes that you would leave the cinema

singing.

Is the word you're looking for camp?

Yes, it's not as camp.

Yes, that's what it is.

I've been struggling to put my finger on

what it is, yes.

The first one is definitely camper.

The second one, it is a bit darker and

grittier,

and it brings the storylines together to a

conclusion.

And it's good.

It is good in its own right.

I think if you go into the second

one, comparing it to the first and expecting

something very

similar, you might set yourself up for disappointment.

But if you go in without expectations, I

think that's the best way to approach it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, the production was amazing, costume design

amazing, storyline.

Yeah, it was good.

But I just, I wasn't as engaged with

this one as I was with the first

one.

Yeah.

Still good though.

I think there were quite a lot of

reviews of this that were bad.

I don't really agree.

I don't get it.

I think those are super fans who went

in with high expectations.

They wanted specific things from the film.

Exactly.

Exactly.

However, obviously Jonathan Bailey.

Jonathan Bailey.

Sexy Jonathan Bailey.

Sexiest man alive, Jonathan Bailey.

What was the conversation you had with Nik

before you went in?

So obviously, Nick is, he's going to kill

us.

Nik is a super fan.

And just before we went into the cinema,

I said to him, oh, are you excited

to see

Wicked For Good?

I know you've been looking forward to this

for a while.

And he reached into his pocket and he

took a little pack of tissues.

And he showed me, he said, I brought

some tissues.

I said, are you going to have a

w***?

But then there's a point in the film

where, and this isn't a spoiler, but there is

a point

in the film where you see a little

bit of Jonathan Bailey's chest and his chest

hair.

And that was a highlight.

It was a highlight.

He's looking mighty fine.

So I just leaned over to Nik and

said, hankies at the ready.

What did he say?

He just laughed.

And then I decided I wanted to get

a better laugh out of him.

So I leaned over to him and went,

toss toss.

Then the people in front of us turned

around and went, shhhh!

They weren't happy.

So, yeah, it's a pretty good film.

Jonathan Bailey's quite good in it.

Cynthia Erivo, Ariana Grande, phenomenal.

Like their voices are just something else.

I ended up in a Wicked reel hole

last night, just before bed.

I ended up in the Jonathan Bailey hole.

In my dreams.

You wish.

Yeah.

So I think we've talked about our week.

We've talked about Wicked.

Shall we move on to the fitness section?

Let's do it.

So we have reached the regular fitness section

of the podcast.

And this week we thought it would be

good to do something around fitness coaching.

This is the time of year when people

start to turn their thoughts towards fitness goals,

New Year's resolutions, all those kind of things.

And quite a lot of people reach out

to personal trainers and online fitness coaches

for support in that.

So what we are going to do today

is have a little chat about coaching.

We're going to discuss the differences between

an online fitness coach and an in-person

personal trainer.

So that people know what each does.

They have a better idea of which gets

better results.

And we'll also point out some red flags

as well.

So things to watch out for if you

are shopping around for a coach or a

trainer,

what to look out for that's going to

set the alarm bells ringing.

Yeah.

And I think it's good because people can

then make an informed choice.

You know, they can look at what is

best for them, like you said,

make the decision based on that.

Totally.

And what we probably should preface this with

is a...

Disclaimer.

Yes, because we are online fitness coaches.

We run Outlifting, which is our own service.

But this section is not really to push

our specific service.

It is to just give people a bit

of an overview so that they can make

an informed decision.

And that said, if they do want to

go with our service,

we do have a special offer at the

end so they can stick around for that.

So Alan, do you want to kick us

off and maybe just give a brief outline

of what each is?

Yeah, definitely.

So in person, personal trainer, generally you pay

them by the hour.

They deliver the session within that hour and

they might give you a little bit of

extra

in terms of like a little bit of

nutrition coaching,

but generally it's just for that hour that

you're paying for.

Whereas with an online coach, it's more of

a holistic approach.

I would say, you know, you get your

full workout program,

you get nutrition advice, you get mindset advice,

and you get access to them a lot

more than what you would with an

in-person personal trainer.

Obviously, online fitness coaching is pretty new.

In the last few years, it has exploded

and a lot more people

are moving to that and away from

in-person personal training.

However, it isn't for everybody.

So what we've done is we've prepared a

list here of a few different points

just to demonstrate what the differences are between

the two,

so that people can make that decision.

So the first one up we've got is

cost.

So for an in-person personal trainer, traditionally,

you pay per session,

which is normally an hour.

So you've got your trainer for that hour

in the gym, they're with you,

they go through your workout program with you.

For an online fitness coach, you are paying

a fixed monthly fee

and that kind of covers everything.

It's a fixed cost.

So obviously, depending on how many sessions you

have with an in-person trainer per month,

that can work out more expensive than the

fixed cost online.

So the next one up is location.

Traditionally, an in-person personal trainer will be

gym-based in that one specific gym,

whereas an online coach, they can be accessed

from anywhere.

So that can be particularly good for someone,

for instance, who travels with work

or when you go on holiday, you've still

got access to your coach.

In terms of support, generally, an in-person

personal trainer

gives you support during those sessions in the

gym and it's usually restricted to that,

whereas an online coach is structured.

You get chat, you get calls and they

are more available to you around the clock.

In terms of personalization, online, I think, tends

to be more tailored to you

and a personal trainer, an in-person personal

trainer can be less so.

And the reason for that is because the

personal... the in-person personal trainer

is when they are on the clock, they

are actually physically training you

and that's what you're paying them to do.

Whereas with the online coach, they are, well,

they should be spending the time

making sure that your programming is right, you're

getting the support that you need,

that your nutrition is right and things like

that.

In terms of feedback, with an online coach,

generally, you've got them during a chat

and you would have regular check-ins with

them.

If you need support with your form, so

how you're performing exercises,

generally, how they do that is you would

record a video of yourself in the gym

performing the exercise, you send it to your

online coach and then they give you

feedback about what you need to change in

your setup and your execution.

With an in-person personal trainer, the feedback

is really immediate.

It's while you're in that session, you've got

them, they can give you the feedback then.

And with form as well, that maybe is

an advantage for an in-person personal trainer

because they can tell you then and there,

this is what you need to correct.

Do this differently.

And then the last point that we have

is education.

So an in-person personal trainer, most of

the education that you receive from them

will be workout focused and during your session,

so they can impart wisdom

and teach you things while they are face

-to-face with you, coaching you.

With an online coach, perhaps I should preface

this with saying with a good online coach,

they should have resources available to you and

they can educate you during

check-ins and via chat and also there

should be an element of habit tracking in

there as well

to help you build what you need to

be able to succeed.

So that is a very brief overview of

the main differences between the two.

So shall we get to the crux of

it and what most people will be asking?

Which one's better?

I think actually the real question is, it's

not about which one is better,

but which one is better for you?

You know, everybody's individual in terms of the

support that they need.

So I think with an in-person PT,

if you're someone that needs that extra push

in the moment

and you don't think that you have the

motivation or the drive to do that on

your own,

then an in-person PT is going to

be ideal for you

because they're going to give you that motivation

in the moment.

If you need someone to stand over you

in the gym and push you, perfect.

Yeah, no, I agree.

And I think with online coaching, it's more

of a holistic approach.

You're going to be getting workouts, nutrition, mindset

coaching and accountability.

If you're someone that needs help working on

your physical health in tandem with mindset,

then online coaching is probably a really good

approach for you.

There are people out there who definitely gravitate

more towards an in-person trainer.

There are people who actually, when they start

looking into it,

they realise what they need is an online

coach

because I think an online coach is more

of a, it's a hand-holding and it's

not forever.

It's, I think the good thing about online

coaching

is that really you take it on for

as long as you need it.

So you come on for an initial period.

It's almost like having somebody holding your hand

through that bit.

You can ask them questions whenever you need

it.

And our aim anyway, as online coaches,

is to bring people to the point where

they don't need us anymore.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And I think as well, if you're in

the market for an in-person PT or

an online coach,

you need to make sure that they're a

good fit for you as well.

We have had calls before and I've said

to people,

I don't think we're right for you.

I think you need an in-person personal

trainer

because you need that support in the moment,

you know?

So you need to really kind of make

that decision and say,

okay, do I need an in-person PT

that's going to do this

or do I need an online coach which

is going to do this?

Yeah, absolutely. It is about that.

And I would also say there is an

angle

because obviously we are a coaching service for

gay, bi and trans men.

And coming at this from an LGBTQ angle,

I think picking the right trainer is really

crucial as well.

What really underlined that for me as well,

we know of some fitness coaches out there

through social media

who we have actually un-followed because when

you look at who they follow,

or you sometimes you see what they're sharing

in the stories,

there's been times that they've shared really awful

stuff

from the likes of Andrew Tate and the

rest.

And if people are going to them for

support as a member of the LGBT community,

they might not really be aware of this.

They might not be aware of their trainer's

views

and it might only come up a little

later on.

I think that's why it's really important, especially

if you're LGBTQ,

to maybe vet your coach or your trainer

a little closer.

Absolutely. Do some research on them, find out,

really do a deep dive into their social

media

because that's where you're going to get a

feel for who they are.

So I think we've covered online coaching versus

in-person personal training.

We have got one segment left of this

section and that is the red flags.

So we have prepared 10 red flags to

look out for when you're choosing a coach.

Obviously, in every industry,

there's people that are offering good service and

bad service

and the fitness industry is no different.

So I think this section is super important

to highlight the red flags and the green

flags.

And I think we've already given a bonus

one,

which is if they follow Andrew Tate.

Red flag!

Red flag.

So the first one that we have got

on our list,

red flag number one is that the workout

plan that they supply to you

is just a scrap of paper or an

Apple Note

or a Google spreadsheet or something like that.

Really, what you should be expecting in 2025

is an app where you have got your

workouts

and you can track your progress.

We spoke to someone recently and they said

they were getting their workouts through Apple Notes.

Honestly, I don't even know what to say

to that.

It's just crazy.

I mean, it's 2025, almost 2026.

If you're not using an app to track

your workouts,

then I don't know what you're doing.

And leading on from that, red flag number

two,

your workout program isn't customized to you.

In-person PTs and online coaches

potentially could be giving you cookie cutter programs,

which means they're giving everybody the same program

and you should be getting a tailored assessment

for your goals, your ability, and where you

are right now.

Yeah, we've heard that from our clients before

quite a few times

where they've been with a previous coach or

trainer

and they have been forced to use the

treadmill for a set period of time,

even though they've told their trainer multiple times

they do not like running.

Absolutely. I hate running.

See, if someone told me to run, I'd

be like, nah.

As we always say, the best cardio is...

The one that you enjoy doing.

Yes.

So we work with our clients on that

and I think any coach worth their salt

does the same.

Yeah, absolutely.

So red flag number three is that there

is no clear onboarding process.

So when a coach or a trainer brings

on a new client,

they really should onboard them.

And what that essentially means is

they tell them all of the essential information

that they need to know at the start,

they get them up and running,

they get the information from them that is

needed

and it's clear to you so that you

do not feel lost in the process

when you start working with a coach or

a trainer.

Yeah, an onboarding process is so important at

the start.

Think about it, even if you're experienced or if

you're someone new,

starting a new fitness journey can be really

overwhelming.

It can be really scary.

You're going to be nervous.

There's lots of information to take on.

You want to make sure that you're getting

it right.

So having a simple onboarding process really makes

that a lot easier.

It lays out everything that you need to

do in the first couple of weeks.

Absolutely, absolutely.

And I mean, there's no sort of industry

standard for what it looks like,

but I will give our service purely as

an example.

So when a new client signs up with

us,

we trigger a series of timed emails

so that they don't get information overload.

So they're getting one clear actionable step

or one clear piece of information per email

and it's spread out over a series of

days.

So it brings them up to speed gradually.

Most important information first.

We also have, for instance,

a handbook that we have designed ourselves

it's 32 pages long and it's got all of

the basic information that they need

that they can ingest in their own time.

And if they have specific questions for us,

sometimes we can use that as a reference

tool as well

to help guide them through.

So I think that is basically what you're

looking for.

Any sort of trainer or coach should have

a clear onboarding process.

Yeah.

And if you're in the market for an

in-person PT or an online coach,

when you're speaking to them,

ask them what their onboarding process is,

and then you'll get a good idea

of what you're going to get in the

first couple of weeks.

Absolutely. That's a really good tip.

So red flag number four is the personal

trainer

gives you unrealistic expectations for you to work

towards.

And this is both in-person PT and

online coaches.

They might be expecting you to achieve

what their other clients have achieved,

but again, they need to meet you where

you are at the minute.

So if someone's expecting you to lose 10

kg in two weeks,

that's a definite, definite red flag.

Yeah. The trainer or coach should not be

giving you unrealistic expectations.

What they should be doing is setting your

expectations realistically.

So if you come along and you want

to achieve a certain goal,

it is up to the trainer to say,

we can do that within the confines of

whatever restrictions you've told me you have.

This is when this would be realistically achievable

by.

Yeah. And if anyone's telling you that you

can lose 10 kg in two weeks,

just sack them straight away.

Absolutely. Red flag number five is that the

trainer or coach

just tells you to keep adding weights in

order to progress.

Now, the reason that this is a red

flag is because when they program your workout

schedule,

that should include structured phases and progressive overload

built in,

and it should also be open to change

and adapt as you progress.

Yeah. Totally agree with you. We always do

our programs in four week stages

so that you're getting that progressive overload.

It's super important to make sure that that

is programmed within the whole program.

Yeah, definitely.

Red flag number six, and this is specific

to in-person personal trainers,

they frequently cancel sessions.

So if you are looking for an

in-person PT,

ask them how many sessions they've cancelled in

the last month,

and that'll give you a good idea of

how committed they are to their clients.

Absolutely. Life happens, things get in the way.

We're not saying that the cancellation rate should

be absolutely zero,

because that's not realistic.

But what we are saying is if you

are paying for a professional service,

you should expect that professional service.

And somebody who frequently cancels is not going

to deliver that.

Yeah, I agree.

So the last four red flags that we've

got are specific to online fitness coaches.

And red flag number seven is that they

get you to do your check-in

by filling in a form, and then they

send you written feedback.

Now, the reason that this is a red

flag is because as we've said already,

it is 2025, it's almost 2026,

and there is no excuse to not be

having that face time with your client on

a video call.

In my personal opinion, it's just lazy not

to.

Yeah, I agree.

Like you don't get a feel for someone

over a form.

And we've said this in a previous episode

as well.

Like we've always done face-to-face

check-ins

because you get to see that person and

actually see how they're doing.

Filling in a form just doesn't cut it

in 2025.

Yeah, and I think one of the really

important differences

between an in-person personal trainer and an

online coach

is that an in-person personal trainer is

really good for spotting you in the gym

when you're lifting weights.

But an online fitness coach is really good

at spotting excuses.

And really, the only way you're going to

do that

is by talking face-to-face over a

video chat with the client.

You can't do that.

If they fill in a form, they're not

going to be totally honest with you.

They're going to give a glossy overview of

the way things are.

They'll rewrite it.

And that's just the nature of people.

They're going to tell you what you want

to hear.

Exactly, exactly.

Well, I'm hitting on my goals.

I'm hitting on my nutrition.

I'm doing 12,000 steps a day.

Yeah.

Okay, but you're not reaching your goal.

So what's going on?

Exactly, exactly.

We need to be there to call them

out.

And the only way you can really do

that is by talking to them.

It's the only way it works.

I am going to say something controversial here.

And I think the reason that so many

online fitness coaches

do their check-ins by form is because

of these mentorship programs.

So there are these mentorship programs that exist

that advertise to online coaches and they promise,

oh, we will triple your monthly revenue.

You'll bring this in.

And when you join these programs, the advice

that they normally give is

don't do video check-ins.

It takes up too much of your time.

You should be doing form check-ins so

that you can bring in more clients

and make more money.

And none of the focus is on the

service that they are delivering.

It's not about delivering the best service that

they can for people.

And that, for me, is just the wrong

way to go about it.

It almost feels a little bit like then

people are going to get ripped off

because they're getting an inferior service from their

coach.

Yeah, I agree.

And actually, it kind of reminds me of

when I was an in-person PT

because that was all about how many sessions

you could do.

And it wasn't about the result that you

were getting for the client.

And again, that was about making sure that

you did as much as you could

in the time that you had available, you

know.

Whereas, actually, you should be caring about your

clients

and what results they're getting.

Yeah, that would, I mean,

that particular experience that you were talking about,

you were employed by a major gym chain

in the UK.

And that pressure to deliver as many sessions

as possible

was being set by your employer.

Yeah, and I actually hit burnout at one

point

because I was trying to do as much

as I could

and then the clients weren't getting the service

that they should have been getting from me.

You hated that.

Like, I remember you coming home from work

and you just did not enjoy the job.

And that was your first personal training job

after you qualified.

And it sucked the wind out of your

sails.

You decided to become a personal trainer

because it was your passion.

You left a corporate job to go and

follow this

and it almost felt that you,

the first job you landed as a personal

trainer

felt even more corporate.

Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Like, I became a personal trainer to change

people's lives.

I know that sounds really, really cheesy,

but I actually did.

And going into that environment just was not

a nice environment.

And aside from that as well,

it was like, it felt like a bit

of a boys club.

And if you weren't in the boys club,

then you were an outsider.

And again, being LGBTQ,

that was just another level of that as

well.

So the pandemic hit, I set up online

coaching

and then the rest is history.

A red flag number eight is that they

don't do weekly check-ins.

And again, we've spoke about this before.

If your coach is doing anything other than

weekly check-ins,

then that is definitely a red flag.

I've heard of people doing monthly check-ins

and there's absolutely no way that you can

coach someone to their goals

by doing monthly check-ins.

Absolutely not at all.

We've heard a broad spectrum.

So some online fitness coaches do a

check-in with their client every two weeks.

Some of them do it every month.

And really it has to be every week

because that is just how people live.

It's on a week-to-week basis.

And people have that routine,

people have that structure in their lives.

And you are not going to pick up

things.

As a coach, you're not going to pick

up things quick enough

if you're not doing weekly check-ins.

Yeah, absolutely.

So red flag number nine is all about

communication policies for online coaches.

So what is the typical response time to

questions?

So the way the model works is that

you would have your regular check-in,

hopefully by video.

And hopefully weekly.

And hopefully weekly.

But you should also have access to your

coach

throughout the week as well by chat.

So for us, we have got an app.

And in that app, that's where you get

your workouts, everything like that.

But we also have a chat function in

that app.

And it's dedicated for our clients

so that we can talk back and forward

with them.

So I think, and what we do, this

is kind of reasonable to expect.

And this would be like the gold standard

across the industry.

So for me, this is an example of

what good online coaches do.

So they should say to you, if you

ask, what is your communication policy?

How quickly you will respond?

The answer really should be, I'll get back

to you as soon as possible.

If that's straight away, great.

But it will be no more than 24

hours

from you sending me a message during business

times.

Yeah.

So that's reasonable.

For us, it never really stretches that 24

hours.

It's just a service standard that we put

in place.

But what we strive for is as quickly

as possible.

Yeah, absolutely.

I think probably clients, three hours is maybe

the maximum

that they wait for us to respond to

them.

And even we had a client there at

the weekend

that rolled over their ankle.

So they needed their workout changed.

They couldn't do any lower.

And they needed their upper workout changed

so that they were using machines.

So they're not putting any pressure on their

ankle.

They let me know within a couple hours

that I'd changed the workout for them.

And again, that should be standard for you.

If you need something adapted quickly,

then you should be able to have that

done.

Absolutely.

That's what you're paying your monthly fee for.

And the last one, red flag number 10,

is they are using AI to generate responses,

to generate workouts.

And we've touched on this a couple of

weeks ago.

And it's just, again, you're paying a monthly

fee.

There's no way that they should be using

AI

to send your responses or design your workout

programs

or whatever it might be.

You're paying for a personal service.

Yes, it is online, but it is still

a personal service.

So if you feel that your coach is

using AI in any way,

call them out.

Well, I wouldn't say in any way.

So I'm going to give an example.

So obviously at the top of this show,

we talked about how we had,

this is our third attempt at recording this.

So I'm actually going to give an example

of when AI has been useful and appropriate

to use in what we do.

So the second recording was filmed the whole

way,

but then one of the cameras failed halfway

through.

So it didn't work.

And we needed to rerecord fully.

So what I did was I took the

transcript

recorded from the good camera that didn't fail,

fed that into AI and got a text

transcript

of what we said.

So it basically transcribed everything.

I then fed that into AI and said,

this is the raw recording,

get rid of all of the outtakes,

and then summarize what was left

so that we had an overview

of what we actually had said in

that

so we could remind ourselves

of what we talked about

so that we didn't miss anything

when we rerecorded this.

So that is a useful and appropriate use

for AI.

However...

Yeah, but that's backend stuff,

like clients don't get to know any of

that, you know?

Totally.

But if a coach is using AI

to generate the feedback that they're sending you,

to generate the programs

that they are meant to be writing for

you,

that is the core part of what a

coach

or a trainer is meant to do.

That is their job.

They should not be outsourcing that

to what is essentially

just a really fancy auto-complete function

on your computer.

So by now you should have a good

idea

of the differences between an online coach

and an in-person PT,

how they differ in their approaches,

and also the red flags to look out

for

if you're shopping around.

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