Drag queens, Alan Cumming’s queer festival, & AI coaches | Outlifting Lounge Ep. 2

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This is the podcast all about pride, fitness, and everything in between.

So welcome to episode two.

Wow.

Episode one.

I know absolutely blown away by all the feedback that we've

had and the positive comments.

People have been DMing us.

People have been dropping comments on reels and stuff

we've been posting on Instagram.

It's been brilliant.

It's been absolutely phenomenal.

I am bowled over by how many people have listened to the podcast, watched

the podcast on YouTube, watched snippets of the podcast on social media.

It has just been crazy.

I know.

Who would have thought that people would want to listen to us

droning on for 45 minutes.

Onwards and upwards onto episode two and beyond.

Absolutely.

Although I did get a bit of feedback from someone.

I'm going to take it as a compliment.

They said, we've got the perfect voices to fall asleep to.

I have been told that before. By me. Watch it!

So we used to teach Bodybalance, Les Mills Bodybalance, when we were in

Glasgow, for those who don't know what that is, it is a yoga fusion class.

It's like new yoga, a bit of Pilates and a bit of Tai Chi.

It's a phenomenal class.

Everything's choreographed to wonderful music by people who are

just brilliant at what they do in New Zealand.

They've been creating this class for decades.

And it is phenomenal.

I do miss teaching it.

Yeah.

At the end of that class, there is, you know, the relaxation track.

And I've been told by quite a few people before that I have put them to

sleep during that 10 minute track.

Yeah.

Same.

It's a special, special class.

We really miss teaching it.

Don't we?

We really miss it.

So maybe don't listen to this podcast while you're driving or

operating heavy machinery.

Yeah.

I joke, I joke.

Please listen to it.

Wherever.

Yeah.

Lots of people have actually told us that they've been listening to it in

the car when they're off to do whatever.

So looking forward to getting the feedback on episode two now as well.

So looking forward to keeping people company on their way to and from work

then with episode two.

Shall we kick off and talk a little bit about how our week has been?

Yes.

Well, my week has actually been taken up with replying to people on

social media, which I love because like I love talking to people and

finding out about them and their fitness journies

cause a lot of the time we end up talking about fitness, which is amazing.

Yeah.

The feedback that we've been getting has just been, I'm absolutely blown away by it.

It's been really nice connecting with people that already follow us,

connecting with new followers.

Um, yeah, that's pretty much been my week, that and the gym as always.

I've been doing a lot of the cutting and editing and things like that.

And putting the clips out on social media.

So I've been kept quite busy with that as well.

And obviously we've still got the business to run.

So for those who maybe didn't catch episode one, we run Outlifting,

which is a health, fitness, nutrition, business, online coaching

for gay, bi and trans guys.

So obviously this is a side project.

This is a, a pet project that we've launched in addition to that.

So a lot of work.

I think we've bitten off quite a lot. I was going to say

After we edited episode one, we did kind of look at each other.

and went, oh my God

have we bitten off more than we can chew?

But actually the process of doing the podcast and then watching the final

product after that is, it's been really, really good.

You know?

Yeah.

I've enjoyed it.

Glad we've done it.

I've enjoyed it and many more to come.

Yes.

Yeah.

So outside of that, I think I have managed to keep myself sane with

the volunteering work that I've been doing.

So every Friday I've been going out with Checkpoint Canarias, which is

the local sexual health organization here in Maspalomas in Gran Canaria.

The organization has set up a clinic where people can get free tests for

the majority of STIs, including HIV testing, totally for free, because

before the clinic was set up, it cost quite a lot of money, particularly

for tourists who are coming over and perhaps didn't have insurance. To go

and get tested was not easy and now it has become super easy.

So I go out around the bars in the Yumbo Center with some other volunteers

every Friday night and we collect money because that's how it keeps

running. We don't get any government funding.

Yeah.

So that's been a lot of fun.

And you love it, don't you?

Like you absolutely love it.

Like when you come back in and you tell me how the collections

went and people are so, so generous once they find out actually what it

is that you're collecting for, you know, it's amazing and that

new facility that they've got as well is just unbelievable.

It is phenomenal.

It's really good.

Before, the organization was renting out some space within

an existing clinic and it wasn't ideal.

They didn't have their own space, but now have this new clinic and they've

got a mobile clinic because there is an ambulance that can travel about.

Yeah.

Which means that at times like pride, the ambulance can be

stationed within the Yumbo Center, which is really busy and they

can do some ad hoc testing for people that are in there and it's great

because it stops the transmission of sexually transmitted infections

and it lets people know their status also.

So we've got to a position where around one in four of the tests

are coming back positive for STIs.

And I think that there's probably a number of factors for this.

Because people are on holiday

they're having some fun, but also I think with the advent of

PrEP, people are perhaps using fewer other preventative measures and it's

leading to increased spread of other STIs.

So yeah, it's a really vital service and I'm happy to play

my small part in doing that as well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that you go out on a Friday and do that.

I know because you get the place to yourself so that you can watch

murder documentaries on Netflix.

Yeah, there is that, but you know, like when we first

moved over here, we did say that we wanted to integrate with the local

community and that's exactly what you're doing.

Doing that out on a Friday night.

You've made some friends from it as well, which is really, really nice.

And you're doing some good.

And it pushed me out of my comfort zone last Friday.

Yes.

Let's talk about that.

Oh my goodness.

So one of the bars that we go to to collect is a Spanish drag bar.

All of the songs that the drag queens perform are in Spanish.

Hang on, hang on.

It's not just a Spanish drag bar.

It is like an institution in the Yumbo and it's probably your favorite bar.

In the Yumbo. It is my favorite drag bar in the Yumbo.

I love it.

It's called Terry's Show Bar.

Terry's Show.

Terry's Show.

I love Terry's Show.

I don't know why I love it so much.

I just, I'm obsessed with it.

Do you know what I think it is?

It's kind of like, you know, like the stand in Glasgow.

It's such an intimate venue.

Like if you are sitting in the front row of the stand, you're

practically on the stage and it's kind of like that in Terry's as well.

It's a small wee locale.

It's nothing fancy.

Let's say, you know, it's, and it's just so intimate and you can look right

into the drag queens eyes and it looks like they're absolutely singing to you.

You might not have a clue what they're singing to you, but you know,

you feel like you're involved in the show.

It is very good.

And the drag queens that perform there are super high energy.

Yeah.

They've got such a following because they're so good at what they do.

They're so dedicated.

We have been into the Yumbo in the off season on nights when it's

maybe a bit cold on a week night and there's maybe only two or three people in the bar.

Well, let's talk about that in April, where it was absolutely pishing down.

There was water coming in and they had to move tables out of the way

because the roof was leaking.

It was you, me, Jaime and probably like two other people at the bar,

but they still gave it absolutely 100%.

Yeah.

So we, I think we made as much noise that night for them as a regular crowd

because we felt we had to overcompensate and give a lot of praise.

Also obviously there's Miss Claudia who is amazing and she is the makeup artist

for Supremme De Luxe who we were talking about last week.

Yes.

So she is basically, anybody who watches Drag Race U.S.

will know Raven who does RuPaul's makeup.

So Miss Claudia is the Raven of Spain.

Basically, she goes and does the makeup for Supremme De Luxe,

the host of Drag Race España.

And then on Sunday I was like, Oh my God, look at her makeup.

It was absolutely amazing.

And we always both go, I wonder who does that?

She's very, she is very talented.

Miss Claudia, her makeup skills are unreal.

She goes around.

I've noticed that she is going to be in Sitges soon doing like a makeup

masterclass.

So she just constantly travels around and does these master classes

because she's so good at what she does.

And she's doing the pre-pride party here for the parade on the Saturday,

which we're going to try and go to.

Yes.

Can't wait.

That's in the Hotel Ritual.

Yes.

We have gone off on a tangent here.

The reason that we were talking about Terry's was because we go collecting

there, all of the other bars that we go to are English speaking, but

that's the Spanish speaking bar.

And the volunteers that are out on a given Friday night don't speak

Spanish, then we can't go to that bar because we need to go and make an

announcement on the microphone before we collect.

So I have been learning the announcement for weeks and weeks and

weeks because I want, I love going to that bar and I don't want to miss

out just based on the fact that there's perhaps nobody that can speak Spanish.

So I've learned it.

And then last Friday I got up on stage and made the announcement in Spanish.

So I'm very proud of myself.

I got through it, got a round of applause and we got quite a generous

donation afterwards.

So a pat on the back for me.

I know.

Well done.

I'm proud of you as well.

Thank you.

I thought you were just about to burst into it there, because

you've been practicing it.

Hola a todos y gracias por... no.

It's nerve-wrecking enough standing in front of people to make an announcement like that

nevermind doing it in a language that isn't your native language.

So yeah, well done.

I'm proud of you as well.

Yeah.

I think learning a language is about pushing yourself out of your

comfort zone and I feel like that's what I've done.

So did it help that there were hot Spanish boys in the bar as well

and you wanted to show off?

Always.

Fair enough.

Yeah.

So here's hoping that there's nobody else to make the

announcement on many more Fridays.

Yes.

Although I don't think you would want to do it on pride Friday,

because it's going to be absolutely rammed and we are going to the

Tropicana Beach party as well, so you will have a few wee drinks in you.

A couple of sherrys.

A couple of sherrys.

Shall we crack on with the next segment?

Go for it.

So did you see

the big news from Alan Cumming this week?

Eh, our pal Alan Cumming.

He's not our pal.

We met him once.

We met him once and I've spoken to him on Instagram a few times.

He's officially a pal.

Okay.

So we met Alan Cumming on the way to Pitlochry one Christmas.

He was in a little vegan cafe with his husband and we were

sitting at the next table and, you tell the rest. And I was like,

oh look, there's Alan Cumming.

And then we strategically met him because I was like, I said to you,

you're going to pay the bill and I'll walk past the table because

we had the dogs with us.

I was like, I'll walk past the table with the dogs and they love dogs.

And it worked, we got to speak to him.

And he's actually a lovely, lovely, totally down to earth guy.

So this is not a flex or a brag or anything, but I have met quite a lot

of celebrities and politicians and things due to the nature of my previous work.

In my past life, I've met quite a few and Alan Cumming by far is the most

down to earth nicest celebrity that I've ever met.

Yeah.

He is just such a good guy.

He genuinely takes an interest when he's chatting with you.

He has never forgotten his roots.

He's never forgotten where he came from.

Yeah.

Great guy.

Yeah.

We were actually, so it was Christmas and we were on our way to the

Saorsa, so Derec and I are plant-based if anybody

doesn't know that, and Alan Cumming is plant-based slash vegan as well.

And we were telling them that we were going there cause there's a totally

vegan hotel and he was like, oh, I definitely need to go,

it sounds amazing.

And we were bragging to the owners once we got to the hotel where we're

like, oh, we just met Alan Cumming and he said he's going to come.

And she's like, oh my God, if he comes, that'd be amazing.

And then we ended up going for our anniversary, I think like later on in

that year, I think it was this year, well going

into the next year.

So then that next year we went for our anniversary and the night before we

went, Alan Cumming, our pal, messaged me on Instagram to say, oh, you'll

never guess where I am.

I was like, no way we're actually going to be there tomorrow.

But he was leaving the day that we were arriving.

So we missed him.

And then when we got to the hotel, the owner who we're kind of

friendly with was like, you've never guessed who was here.

We're like, yeah, we know he messaged us, our pal Alan Cumming.

She's like, Oh my God.

So that was pretty cool.

Yeah.

He's such a lovely guy.

And as if we didn't love him enough already, Alan is launching a festival

in Pitlochry, right in the Highlands of Scotland, and it's called Out

in the Hills. It's on from the 16th to the 18th of January, 2026.

And it is just going to be a fabulous festival of LGBTQ culture.

And there's some big names at it as well.

Yeah, it sounds amazing.

I'm raging that we're not actually going to be there

because it sounds brilliant.

And if anybody knows Pitlochry or doesn't know Pitlochry, it's

just this really small, picturesque little village in the middle of

the Perthshire Hills.

It's beautiful.

Oh, it's amazing.

And a lot of, a lot of really nice walks as well, like there's

that beautiful waterfall, nice places.

You can go out walking with the dogs and things like that.

It's a brilliant place.

It is gorgeous.

Alan's from Perthshire originally, so he does a lot of work in Pitlochry,

doesn't he?

Which you're going to go on and talk about?

Yeah.

So I think Alan has been the creative director of the local

theatre in Pitlochry for a while now.

He has decided that January is quite a quiet month anyway, and he's

going to bring a little bit of fabulousness and light and sparkle

to Pitlochry in January with this festival.

So he has got, Graham Norton's going to be there.

He's got Ian McKellen, who's going to be there.

Amazing.

And I think numerous other people as well in conversation events.

Our pal, Zander Murray.

Zander, yeah, Zander apparently is going to be there as well.

So for those who don't know, Zander is a footballer who came out of

the closet and has just shown immense bravery and leadership in that as well.

He's been a really good role model for young gay guys.

You know, we should actually, next time Zander's here, get him as a guest on the podcast.

Zander, get your holiday booked.

Come on over.

We'll get him tagged in this.

Yeah, yeah.

The last time I saw you on social media, you were looking a wee bit

peely wally, pal, and for those who don't understand Scottish

vernacular, that means a bit pale, very white, you need some sun.

Come over and get a tan and sit on our couch and be

part of our podcast for the day.

So as well as the in conversation events, there's going to be a queer

ceilidh, there's going to be standup comedy, and there's going to be DJ sets as well.

I am actually genuinely raging that we can't go.

I know.

How about you stay here and look after Haggis and I'll go?

Cause two of our pals are going to be there.

Our pal, Alan Cumming and our pal, Zander Murray.

How about I go, you stay here.

Cause you're looking a bit peely wally as well.

Wow.

You could stay here and top up your tan.

Trust me.

I am going to be out there every day on the lead up to Winter Pride next week.

Careful.

You're going to end up looking like Tan Mom.

I don't want that.

I could be somewhere in between.

I just saw a Golden Girls book there.

I was like, I'm going to be golden.

There we go.

That's the colour

I'm going to be. Bronzed and golden and beautiful.

You'll be the only person in Pitlochry

in January who's bronzed and beautiful and golden.

Maybe, maybe.

So yeah.

So I think it's really amazing that Alan's doing this. In his own words,

he said that queer people have always punched above their weight.

And it's so true at a time when queer people are being

oppressed when we're under fire.

This is positivity to the max.

This is showing the very best side of queer culture.

And it's bringing the local people from Pitlochry into the

theatre to experience that as well.

Yeah, I love it.

You know, like last week we spoke about Manchester Pride and obviously

that was quite a sad story, you know, and this is like super, super positive.

So it's nice that we're talking about something positive this week.

So yeah.

Good luck to Alan and everybody else with the launch of Out in the Hills.

That is, again, that's the 16th to the 18th of January, 2026 in

Pitlochry and we'll stick a link in the podcast description in

case anybody wants to find out more.

Yes.

We have reached the fitness section of the podcast and I think Alan,

you had found something on Reddit that you felt was interesting and

you wanted to read out.

Interesting is an interesting word for it.

Yes.

My blood's boiling about it a little bit to be honest, but

unfortunately it's the world that we live in just now.

So this is from r/beginnerfitness.

My fitness coach is using ChatGPT responses.

What would you do?

I know.

I know.

What?

I know.

So here we go.

I can already feel my blood pressure increasing.

I have an online fitness slash health coach who I check

in with every two weeks.

Red flag there straight away.

For a while now I've felt like her responses have been very

generic and vague and full of over the top emojis.

I started to wonder if she was using AI.

After my check in last week, her response started with the classic,

Absolutely here's a friendly and uplifting response you can send to her.

Classic AI.

And I recognized it from ChatGPT.

Clearly she'd forgotten to remove it when she copied and pasted it to me.

She deleted it soon after.

What should I do?

Has this become the norm in the fitness coaching world now?

Absolutely not.

I feel annoyed by these lazy responses, especially when I'm being

vulnerable and my check in responses and opening up about my difficulties

and challenges. Absolutely!

I know I can cancel my membership with her and get better service elsewhere,

but I do really like having the accountability of a coach and knowing I

have the deadline of bi-weekly check ins.

I pay around $200 a month for her coaching.

So there's also the financial aspect in that I feel I'm throwing money

away just to get robotic responses. For sure!

Curious to hear other people's responses and how I should handle

potentially canceling her services.

So lots of responses came through from different people. Hopefully

telling her to ditch that coach.

Get rid.

Rightly so.

They're just as flabbergasted as I am and as clearly you are.

Dump her.

Dump her.

The person that posted the original Reddit has then come back to say,

Thanks for everyone's responses.

You all helped convince me to cancel and I'll start searching

for a new coach this week.

Yes.

Just emailed her to let her know my intention to cancel and also

told her that her services have felt too generic, impersonal, and don't

match the price she is charging.

Absolutely.

I don't know why I always feel so guilty about canceling memberships,

LOL, but I also feel relieved that I finally said something and can

stop feeling that I'm getting scammed each week.

What the hell?

So first off, bi-weekly check ins.

Yep.

That's not good enough.

No.

So this is not going to be an advertisement for our services,

but just as a comparison, we do weekly check ins.

Our check ins are not based on forms because that is so impersonal.

For an online coach or trainer to only stay in contact by asking

their client to fill in a form every week and then they send a

response, that blows my mind that level of poor service is being supplied.

All of our check ins every week with our clients are video chats.

Yep.

So that we see them face to face.

We get to see really what's going on with them.

We get to ask them questions and it's only if there's certain

circumstances like holidays or whatever, or if somebody has to be in work

and they can't make their video chat that we would ask them to

fill in a form and it's very rare.

That's wild that that is their standard operating procedure.

Absolutely crazy.

Like I cannot believe that.

And like the reason, like when we, when I have a chat with potential new

clients, I say we have a 15 minute check in with you every Monday, because

only there on that check in, I can see actually how you are, what's

happening in your life, how your weekend went, what's coming up

with your week ahead, that's the only way I can get a real feel for it.

You could fill in a form and say everything's great, but actually it's

not and when you're having a face to face check in with somebody, you

can tell if someone isn't doing well, you know, being online coaches, we

really do believe in that personal service, it's personal training.

So you still get that personal service and that's how we deliver that

through our check-ins every Monday.

Yeah.

And I think that this coach that's being spoken about in the thread

gives other online coaches a bad name by association.

That is an incredibly lazy coach who's just phoning it in.

And I actually take personal offense because the service that we offer is

so much more personalized, so much better than that, and we're not the

only ones, there are other online coaches out there doing amazing things.

And I know that online coaching isn't for everybody.

Some people do need in-person, that's what works best for them.

But for other people, online coaching is a really good solution.

It fits well in their life and they get better results.

And it just, it's crazy that somebody like this can give such

poor service and get away with it.

I'm actually raging.

So let's talk about the AI element of this.

So first off, what I will say is people think that ChatGPT is intelligent.

ChatGPT and other large language models are essentially a really

advanced form of auto-completion.

So they will, they've got a bank of data, the end of training data,

and they go into that, but these systems can hallucinate really

badly and give false information.

It tends to be overly biased as well.

You know, it tends to give overly positive responses and you know,

that person might not need that in that moment.

Like I've had check-ins before where we don't even talk about fitness

because somebody just needs to vent about their partner or their work or

whatever it is that might be bothering them and then at the end of the

check-in they're like, Oh my God, I feel so much better after that.

Thank you.

And then through the week, through the chat function on the app that we

use, I'll chat to them then about the fitness stuff, you know, it's

about dealing with that person that's in front of you in that moment.

Absolutely, absolutely.

And AI cannot do that.

It really cannot do that.

It's wild that people are using AI at production scale for things like

this that are meant to be a personal service.

Quite a lot of people out there are worried about AI coming to take their

jobs in this big AI revolution.

Yeah.

But where we stand at the minute is that AI is showing who the lazy

people are because it's obvious who is using AI to do their work for them.

And it is not a good place to be.

There are certain uses for AI.

Absolutely.

I'll use it for certain things, where it can take a document and it can

summarize it, things like that.

There are really, really good uses for AI at the minute, but to be so

lazy that you're using it to generate feedback for your clients when that is

essentially your job, the main part of your job is to monitor how they're

doing, to keep them accountable, to hold them accountable, to give them

feedback, to guide them in the right direction and to coach them to be

kind to themselves as well and to call them out when they need to be

called out because we all need that sometimes.

And that's what this person said on here as well.

They really like that accountability part of the coaching that they were

receiving, but is there actually any accountability there?

All they're doing is copying and pasting from ChatGPT.

Yeah, they liked the accountability from the check-ins, but actually

they weren't getting the full check-in.

This coach was so lazy that she didn't even think to edit

the thing that she copied.

She literally copied, pasted, hit send.

I mean, it's so bad.

It's so bad.

It's so bad.

And like you said earlier on, it tars us all with the same brush.

It's just infuriating.

It really boils my blood.

We have put so much hard work into our business since we launched in January.

We've set out with a vision for ensuring that the personal touch is

still there because we coach guys from all over the world and we

maintain as personal a touch as we can.

We've got our own app.

We've got our own backend website that they can log into.

It's got recipes and it's got digital downloads, things like that.

Can I just say, not just recipes, but over 250 recipes.

And we're adding more every week.

But yeah, so we have put a lot of toil into the business and we do on

a constant basis because we love doing what we do, we're very

passionate about what we do and we are passionate about delivering a

really good service for people.

And yeah, it really annoys me when you hear about other people

doing supposedly the same thing in the same industry and we're miles apart.

But I suppose it's good in one sense because we know what we're

doing is good and we stand head and shoulders above people like that.

So exactly.

I think our results speak for themselves.

And you know, last week we spoke about Fraser.

This week I want to give a shout out to Aaron because he has

been absolutely smashing it as well.

He is doing home workouts.

He's not even in the gym and he's on a weight loss journey at the

minute and every week his weight has gone down consistently.

And it's amazing because he recognizes that it's the long game

that he's playing at the minute.

And every time he comes on his check in on a Monday, he's so happy

because he's like, I've lost another pound, I've lost another pound.

I'm like, amazing.

That's what we want.

Sustainable weight loss and he's not having to sacrifice anything.

And he'll say it himself.

He was not one for working out and it's actually part of his life now.

He absolutely loves it.

And it's part of his daily routine.

And he was ill a couple of weeks ago and he couldn't work out

for a couple of days and he said he missed working out and he never

thought he would ever, ever say that.

So he's had a massive, massive change to his life.

And that's it.

That is it in a nutshell.

Coaching people is not and should never be a tick box exercise.

It's about giving them the skill set that they need to make

sustainable, long lasting changes to their lives.

And it's brilliant because we see Aaron is one example, but we've

seen it time and time again, where people completely change who they

are and become almost unrecognisable.

This is going to sound really weird, but see when somebody leaves our

services, I'm actually quite happy about it because it means they've

got to a point where they've taken all the education that we've given

them, they've taken all the knowledge and they feel confident

enough to then go and do it on their own.

And I think that's just amazing.

Yeah.

It's like when parents send their kids out into the real world.

And yeah, there is a real sense of pride about that because we continue

to see how they get on after they leave, some people end up coming back

because they maybe need a bit of extra accountability. Or their goals have

changed maybe, so they need help with that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But when people kind of leave the service because they feel like they've

achieved what they want to achieve and they can go about it by

themselves, that's a phenomenal feeling because we have that, that

is the marker for us having done our job really well.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

That's good.

So enough of us patting ourselves on the back.

If you're not going to blow your own horn, who is?

Not right now.

This is a PG podcast, Alan.

Don't be doing things like that.

I did actually mean to say to toot your own horn, but clearly my mind's elsewhere.

Yeah.

We are on quite a lot of platforms, but we're not on

the one that starts with only.

So don't go there.

We're like only tans.

Only tans.

Yes.

Yes.

We've tooted our own horns enough.

If people are interested in a quality online coaching service, specifically

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Okay.

Let's wrap it up.

That is episode two in the bag.

Yes.

Can't believe it.

That's a big moment.

Can't wait until we're saying episode 22, but it's, yeah.

It's been good.

This has been a good episode.

And just as last week, we appreciate feedback, comments, suggestions,

anything they want, people can get in contact, as we say, through Instagram.

And yeah, we'd really love to hear back from people.

Yeah.

Give us some ideas on the content that you guys want to see as well.

Absolutely.

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