1 00:00:00,070 --> 00:00:02,290 ♪ What do I have to do? ♪♪ 2 00:00:02,290 --> 00:00:04,810 And also: ♪ Shocked by the power! ♪♪ 3 00:00:04,810 --> 00:00:08,240 You do realise at the start of this show, we're going to 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,630 have to put a major disclaimer about how bad the singing is? 5 00:00:11,630 --> 00:00:14,440 Yeah, warning, warning! 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,340 There will be dodgy Kylie vocals from me and Alan. 7 00:00:17,340 --> 00:00:22,230 Welcome to The Outlifting Lounge, the weekly show serving queer conversation, 8 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:25,920 news, and no-nonsense fitness for gay, bi, and trans guys. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,740 I'm Alan. 10 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:28,490 And I'm his husband, Derec. 11 00:00:28,490 --> 00:00:30,700 Coming up today, we are going to discuss 12 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:32,980 the one, the only, Miss Kylie Minogue. 13 00:00:32,980 --> 00:00:35,990 We will also be talking about the really 14 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:38,340 regressive trans toilet ban in the UK. 15 00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:42,420 And in the fitness section, we will give a rundown of the 16 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:46,510 cheapest protein sources you can get during the cost of living crisis. 17 00:00:46,510 --> 00:00:48,300 Let's start the show. 18 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:51,290 How amazing was the Kylie documentary? 19 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:54,650 Oh my god, as a lifelong Kylie fan, this 20 00:00:54,650 --> 00:00:57,930 week has just been the best week ever. 21 00:00:57,930 --> 00:01:01,950 Yeah, when we watched the documentary and we spoke about how much nostalgia 22 00:01:01,950 --> 00:01:05,410 there is in it, we realised that we've actually grown up with Kylie. 23 00:01:05,410 --> 00:01:09,110 Yeah, for anybody who hasn't seen it or has been living under a 24 00:01:09,110 --> 00:01:14,420 rock, there has been a three-part docuseries added to Netflix about Kylie's life. 25 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:17,500 Now, we watched it last night, back-to-back. 26 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:20,190 I don't think we even intended to watch all three episodes, 27 00:01:20,190 --> 00:01:24,090 because they're like an hour-long each, but we could not stop. 28 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:26,240 It's been the first thing that I've watched in a 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,670 long time, where it's like, just let it roll. 30 00:01:28,670 --> 00:01:29,450 Just let it roll. 31 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:31,020 Let's watch the next episode. 32 00:01:31,020 --> 00:01:33,730 And we couldn't stop until we'd watched it all. 33 00:01:33,730 --> 00:01:35,080 It is compelling viewing. 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,770 But episode one in particular is like the early 35 00:01:38,770 --> 00:01:42,980 Kylie years, and that is absolutely our childhood, eh? 36 00:01:42,990 --> 00:01:45,000 It was so good that I stayed up past my bedtime. 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,190 You really did! 38 00:01:46,190 --> 00:01:48,840 I stayed up until half eleven to watch that. 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,680 That is like way past my bedtime. 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Yeah. Normally we can't start watching a new episode 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,520 of anything after, I would say, 9:30 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,250 at the very latest, because Alan is 43 00:01:58,250 --> 00:02:01,210 100% guaranteed to fall asleep during it. 44 00:02:01,210 --> 00:02:02,240 Nine o'clock more like. 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,650 Yeah. But no, the first episode was amazing, talking about her time 46 00:02:06,650 --> 00:02:11,320 in Neighbours, obviously, and then how our pop career started. 47 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:13,150 And then there was a little cameo from Jason 48 00:02:13,150 --> 00:02:15,460 Donovan as well, which I thought was hilarious. 49 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:18,810 But can I just say, he came across like a bitter old man. 50 00:02:18,810 --> 00:02:20,310 Oh, no. 51 00:02:20,310 --> 00:02:21,330 He did! 52 00:02:21,330 --> 00:02:24,280 I think there was a lot of tongue-in-cheek about it as well, but 53 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,690 you could tell that there's still a lot of feeling there as well. 54 00:02:27,690 --> 00:02:28,400 Okay. 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,050 Okay, if you say so, but that's not the impression I was getting. 56 00:02:32,050 --> 00:02:34,180 I don't think there's any bitterness there. 57 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:38,140 I loved, so when they did the premiere for the docuseries, 58 00:02:38,140 --> 00:02:42,040 and they had the red carpet event, there's a really beautiful 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,910 photo that came from it, and it's Kylie Minogue and Jason 60 00:02:44,910 --> 00:02:48,660 Donovan cuddling on the red carpet, and it's really special because, 61 00:02:48,660 --> 00:02:53,290 what, like four decades later, they're still friends, and... 62 00:02:53,290 --> 00:02:54,360 And he's still trying to be relevant. 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,740 He's like, yeah, I'll come to your premiere. 64 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:56,540 Aw. 65 00:02:56,540 --> 00:02:58,670 Leave Jason Donovan alone. 66 00:02:58,670 --> 00:03:02,070 And if anybody doesn't know who Jason Donovan is, he 67 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:06,330 basically starred in Australian soap opera Neighbours back in the 68 00:03:06,330 --> 00:03:09,190 80s, where him and Kylie got their big breaks. 69 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,860 If anybody doesn't know who Jason Donovan is, 70 00:03:11,860 --> 00:03:14,730 it's probably because they are 30 or younger. 71 00:03:14,730 --> 00:03:16,070 Yeah, probably, actually. 72 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:17,280 We old! 73 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,840 Can I just say as well, like, the production of it is absolutely brilliant. 74 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,480 There were some real laugh-out-loud moments in 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,140 it, which I wasn't really expecting. 76 00:03:25,140 --> 00:03:28,070 It was really, really entertaining and funny, 77 00:03:28,070 --> 00:03:30,610 and yeah, it just warmed my cockles. 78 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:31,880 Oh, God. 79 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,900 Let's not talk about your cockles. 80 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:35,260 This is a family show. 81 00:03:35,390 --> 00:03:40,950 What I thought about the docuseries was it was really well-produced. 82 00:03:40,950 --> 00:03:43,000 It was really well-researched. 83 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,650 I mean, the amount of archive footage that they must have had 84 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:50,240 to go through and edit and piece together is unreal, but also 85 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,130 the pacing of the documentary in the edit is really good, really 86 00:03:54,130 --> 00:03:58,870 gripping, and it tells such a beautiful story the whole way through. 87 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,230 And we obviously learned some stuff as well, so all the 88 00:04:02,230 --> 00:04:05,000 backlash she got in the mid-80s that we wouldn't have known 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,070 about, because we were only very young at that point. 90 00:04:07,070 --> 00:04:10,070 You know, we would have been like 8, 9, 10, 11, probably. 91 00:04:10,070 --> 00:04:11,870 In the mid-80s? 92 00:04:11,870 --> 00:04:14,070 - Uh-huh. - I wasn't, no. 93 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:16,380 In the mid-80s, I was like, 3? 94 00:04:16,380 --> 00:04:19,270 Well, mid to late-80s. 95 00:04:19,270 --> 00:04:24,090 Yeah, in the late-80s, I was 7? 96 00:04:24,090 --> 00:04:27,730 Okay, well, I was talking, because, so obviously, she brought out her first 97 00:04:27,730 --> 00:04:31,100 single in 1987, and then it was a couple of years after that. 98 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:33,250 Okay, late-80s then, let's call it late-80s. 99 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:35,320 So you would have been about 7 or 8? 100 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:35,890 Yeah. 101 00:04:35,890 --> 00:04:39,440 The point I'm making is that we didn't know about 102 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,950 any of that because, obviously, we were too young. 103 00:04:41,950 --> 00:04:47,050 Yeah, and even when I was a little kid who didn't really 104 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:50,870 know what gay was, even though he knew he was very different. 105 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:52,190 A flaming homosexual. 106 00:04:52,190 --> 00:04:56,460 Even though I was a flaming homosexual even back then, Kylie 107 00:04:56,460 --> 00:05:00,250 had been such a constant in my life, because I watched 108 00:05:00,250 --> 00:05:03,050 Neighbours, I loved the whole Kylie and Jason story. 109 00:05:03,060 --> 00:05:05,590 Along with like millions of other people. 110 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:11,220 But her music as well has just been such a constant in my life. 111 00:05:11,220 --> 00:05:13,990 And it was only like when I started looking back, 112 00:05:13,990 --> 00:05:20,050 you realise how many absolute bangers from our childhood, and 113 00:05:20,050 --> 00:05:23,670 I'm talking about our pre-teen years, that Kylie had out. 114 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:25,600 Should we sing some of them? 115 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,030 Well, I knew you were going to hit me with 116 00:05:27,030 --> 00:05:29,180 them, but I didn't realise we were singing them, so. 117 00:05:29,190 --> 00:05:32,280 Hang on, right, so, um, this is just a disclaimer. 118 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:36,200 This section will feature some really dodgy vocals. 119 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,020 From Derec. 120 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:38,460 Mostly from Alan's mic. 121 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:41,250 And I don't have Autotune, so apologies! 122 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:42,860 Yeah, we're not doing a Katie Price. 123 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:45,140 I digress, we're not talking about that, right, go. 124 00:05:45,140 --> 00:05:47,040 ♪ I should be so lucky ♪♪ 125 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,680 ♪ Lucky, lucky, lucky. ♪♪ 126 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:54,010 Oh! And also, ♪ Everybody's doing a brand new dance now. ♪♪ 127 00:05:54,010 --> 00:05:55,790 Locomotion was such a tune. 128 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:57,310 Go on, you can do the next one. 129 00:05:57,310 --> 00:05:59,170 Am I going to test my GCSE French? 130 00:05:59,780 --> 00:06:01,760 ♪ I still love you. ♪♪ 131 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,580 ♪ Je ne sais pas pourquoi. ♪♪ 132 00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:06,000 Well done, that was quite good. 133 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,920 I have been practicing that for almost 40 years, so. 134 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,600 ♪ Got to be certain. ♪♪ 135 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,210 ♪ I've got to be, got to be sure. ♪♪ 136 00:06:14,210 --> 00:06:16,240 Oh my God, that's, we've only just covered, 137 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,180 what's that, one, two, three, four songs? 138 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:19,390 We're not singing all of these. 139 00:06:19,390 --> 00:06:20,730 There's like 12 here. 140 00:06:20,730 --> 00:06:25,030 But a special mention to, ♪ Especially for you ♪♪ 141 00:06:25,030 --> 00:06:27,030 After all your slagging of Jason Donovan, 142 00:06:27,030 --> 00:06:29,060 you're now going to mention THE duet? 143 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:31,510 I know, but that song is like, it's pretty famous. 144 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:33,610 But then we get into things like, Hand on Your 145 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:36,770 Heart, Tears On My Pillow, Wouldn't Change A Thing, Better The 146 00:06:36,770 --> 00:06:39,800 Devil You Know, which is probably in my top five. 147 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,590 Oh, come on, let's face it, she has to do that at every tour. 148 00:06:42,590 --> 00:06:43,670 Step Back in Time. 149 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:45,110 Step Back in Time's a banger. 150 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:47,900 ♪ What do I have to do? ♪♪ 151 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:48,950 Oh my God. 152 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:51,830 And also, ♪ Shocked by the power! ♪♪ 153 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:56,260 We've probably lost about 50% of our listeners now. 154 00:06:56,260 --> 00:06:57,050 Oh my God. 155 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:58,840 And also the last one on that list from our 156 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:02,260 childhood was, ♪ Give me just a little more time ♪♪ 157 00:07:02,260 --> 00:07:03,610 Oh God. 158 00:07:03,610 --> 00:07:06,660 I'm probably going to have to cut that out because that vocal was so bad, 159 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:09,730 but Give Me Just A Little More Time was such a banger as well. 160 00:07:09,730 --> 00:07:14,060 There are so many good pop tunes of that era in that list. 161 00:07:14,060 --> 00:07:17,370 Like, she was the soundtrack to our childhood. 162 00:07:17,370 --> 00:07:20,430 See, the thing is, like, see, looking at those, and obviously they were 163 00:07:20,430 --> 00:07:24,490 out then, I would never think that that's when they were out, because 164 00:07:24,490 --> 00:07:27,600 obviously we just listen to them and know them all the time. 165 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,340 Does that make sense? 166 00:07:28,650 --> 00:07:33,480 Her music is so timeless, and that's what makes her a gay icon. 167 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Princess of pop, I'll have you know. 168 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,450 The queen of pop, actually. 169 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:38,410 Is it the queen? 170 00:07:38,410 --> 00:07:39,260 Who's the princess then? 171 00:07:39,260 --> 00:07:40,770 Whoever Kylie decides is. 172 00:07:40,770 --> 00:07:42,240 She's the queen of pop. 173 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,330 But yeah, like, and that is just from our childhood, and then when you 174 00:07:46,330 --> 00:07:51,780 go on to, like, our teenage years, for me especially, the Impossible Princess album, 175 00:07:51,780 --> 00:07:57,320 which I think was given a really bad rap on the docuseries, because it 176 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,230 was kind of glossed over that it was a low period in Kylie's career 177 00:08:01,230 --> 00:08:04,480 where she tried indie, and it didn't really work for her. 178 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,390 But Impossible Princess was such an amazing album. 179 00:08:07,390 --> 00:08:09,360 When you think of the songs that came 180 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,700 off that, like, Too Far, banger! - Remind me. 181 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:17,940 ♪ Too many, too much, too far, help me ♪♪ 182 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:19,990 See, I actually don't know this album that well. 183 00:08:19,990 --> 00:08:21,100 - Some Kind of Bliss. - No. 184 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:28,010 ♪ Every day is all there is, is there some kind of bliss ♪♪ 185 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,640 I'm so sorry we're subjecting you to this, listeners. 186 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,580 Did it again? 187 00:08:32,580 --> 00:08:34,470 ♪ Did it again ♪♪ 188 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:35,100 Yeah, I know that one. 189 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:35,950 ♪ Clever girl ♪♪ 190 00:08:35,950 --> 00:08:38,230 Yeah. Oh my God, not only was that a banger of 191 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:40,770 a tune, banger of a music video as well. 192 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:41,460 Yeah. 193 00:08:41,460 --> 00:08:43,310 All the different Kylie's, so good. 194 00:08:43,310 --> 00:08:43,970 And Breathe! 195 00:08:43,970 --> 00:08:44,800 Go on. 196 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,740 ♪ Breathe ♪♪ 197 00:08:46,740 --> 00:08:48,150 Fucking hell. 198 00:08:48,150 --> 00:08:53,080 I must say, though, although you're saying that this section on the docuseries 199 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,750 got a bad rap, Kylie did say herself she was trying to be 200 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:59,780 something that she wasn't, and that's why it wasn't really received well. 201 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:04,910 Yeah, but like, those songs are bangers, and they are, for me, Kylie. 202 00:09:04,910 --> 00:09:07,730 I'm going to agree to disagree with you on that. 203 00:09:07,730 --> 00:09:08,830 Well, I love it. 204 00:09:08,830 --> 00:09:12,240 I've got, there's a very special place in my heart for Impossible Princess. 205 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,740 However, it was, it came out in 1997, and around about that 206 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:20,610 time, the indie scene was huge, and I was really into indie 207 00:09:20,610 --> 00:09:24,460 music as well, so it was kind of like worlds collide. 208 00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:25,250 There you go. 209 00:09:25,250 --> 00:09:27,950 And you were probably finding yourself then as well, at 16. 210 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:31,090 Well, let's talk about, moving forwards, that's a 211 00:09:31,090 --> 00:09:34,100 good segue, because then Light Years came out. 212 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:36,600 That was a gay awakening. 213 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,110 ♪ Your disco ♪♪ 214 00:09:38,110 --> 00:09:38,610 Oh! 215 00:09:38,610 --> 00:09:40,520 Right, we'll get onto that in a minute. 216 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,040 Can I just say, I went on release day to Virgin Megastore, this 217 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,500 is how long ago this was, to buy the Light Years CD. 218 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:51,810 Aw, your little gay heart. 219 00:09:51,810 --> 00:09:52,380 I know. 220 00:09:52,380 --> 00:09:53,320 It was full of joy that day. 221 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:53,980 It was. 222 00:09:53,980 --> 00:09:59,050 Obviously, there's so many amazing pop tunes on that. 223 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,810 It is iconic, but as you've already mentioned, Your Disco Needs You. 224 00:10:03,810 --> 00:10:05,660 I mean, if that's not in a gay man's top five 225 00:10:05,660 --> 00:10:08,140 Kylie songs, then you need to hand back your gay card. 226 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:14,130 I remember going into the Kremlin gay nightclub in Belfast and being in 227 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:19,900 the back dance floor area, and when that song came on, that place 228 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:25,200 went off in a way that I don't think I've ever seen since. 229 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,680 Like, everybody, it just became such an instant gay anthem. 230 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,590 And what did I buy you as a moving in present 231 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:32,280 when you moved in with me all those years ago? 232 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,450 Yeah, whenever I moved in with Alan, he presented me with this 233 00:10:36,450 --> 00:10:40,810 huge framed picture, and it was just like a black and white 234 00:10:40,810 --> 00:10:44,760 poster with the words, Your Disco Needs You on it. 235 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,750 And do you know what? 236 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:51,240 That took pride of place in our kitchen for many, many years until we moved here 237 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,160 to Gran Canaria, and we need to get it shipped over because we need to put 238 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,100 it on our wall in our new place that we're moving into next week. 239 00:10:58,390 --> 00:11:01,920 I know. There's a lot of stuff we need to get over, but we digress. 240 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,250 Do you know what? 241 00:11:03,250 --> 00:11:07,050 Your Disco Need You is also Jackie O'Donnell's favourite song, 242 00:11:07,050 --> 00:11:08,850 and it actually reminds me of her before it reminds 243 00:11:08,850 --> 00:11:11,290 me of you, because obviously I've known her longer. 244 00:11:11,290 --> 00:11:14,660 Okay, whatever. 245 00:11:14,660 --> 00:11:15,990 Just throwing that out there. 246 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:18,420 And then what's your breakup song? 247 00:11:18,420 --> 00:11:23,550 Oh, so that album also, years later, gave me a breakup song. 248 00:11:23,550 --> 00:11:26,910 When I was going through a particularly bad breakup with someone, 249 00:11:26,910 --> 00:11:29,350 because there was life before Alan, believe it or not. 250 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:30,460 What? 251 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:33,670 Yeah. That song is just so empowering. 252 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:34,770 I absolutely love it. 253 00:11:34,770 --> 00:11:39,920 But that was the theme tune for me, like, finding myself again, 254 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,330 and really just getting back and enjoying life and having fun. 255 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:45,980 So, yeah. 256 00:11:45,980 --> 00:11:47,470 Thanks, Kylie, for that. 257 00:11:47,470 --> 00:11:50,690 Basically, So Now Goodbye is just the two fingers up to your ex. 258 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:52,860 Yeah, so just you be careful, because it could become 259 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:55,120 your theme tune if you don't play your cards right. 260 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,560 So if you start playing it here, then I need to pack my bags. 261 00:11:57,570 --> 00:12:01,790 - Yeah, if you start hearing ♪ So now goodbye ♪♪ - I'm like, bye, Felicia. 262 00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:04,010 ♪ This time I will be gone, goodbye ♪♪ 263 00:12:04,010 --> 00:12:07,070 Yeah, you know that your days are numbered. 264 00:12:07,070 --> 00:12:09,870 You do realise at the start of this show, we're going to 265 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:12,400 have to put a major disclaimer about how bad the singing is. 266 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,210 Yeah, warning, warning. 267 00:12:15,210 --> 00:12:17,810 There will be dodgy vocals from me and Alan. 268 00:12:17,810 --> 00:12:23,650 Okay, moving into some later albums. 269 00:12:23,650 --> 00:12:24,440 Do you know what? 270 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,740 See when I was looking through all her albums earlier, 271 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,780 just reminding myself of how many bangers there are, 272 00:12:29,780 --> 00:12:34,630 I did say to Derec that I need to make an ultimate Kylie playlist. 273 00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:37,840 And he said, that will take forever and it will be very long. 274 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,050 I'm like, yeah, it will, but that just 275 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:41,230 shows you how many fucking bangers there are. 276 00:12:41,230 --> 00:12:45,370 I've been to Kylie concerts and they go on for like two and a half hours. 277 00:12:45,370 --> 00:12:48,870 And we've barely even scratched the surface of her discography. 278 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:52,780 When they showed Showgirls on the docuseries last night, I 279 00:12:52,780 --> 00:12:54,920 was just like, oh, that was like a moment when 280 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,810 she, after her cancer and she was doing her homecoming. 281 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,830 in Sydney. 282 00:12:58,830 --> 00:13:03,660 And like, I remember being at that concert and it was unbelievable. 283 00:13:03,660 --> 00:13:06,820 And I used to listen to the live album from it all the time. 284 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:08,700 Oh, great memories. 285 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:12,600 Another memory actually was, I've already mentioned the Kremlin, but there's a bit 286 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,740 in the docuseries where it shows that Kylie's going through some of the 287 00:13:15,740 --> 00:13:19,390 get well soon cards and letters that she received from that time. 288 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,300 And it reminded me that the Kremlin 289 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:27,390 organized a huge collection for cancer charities. 290 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:30,950 And they raised quite a lot of money, but part of what they 291 00:13:30,950 --> 00:13:34,040 did as well as kind of like a publicity thing to raise awareness 292 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,290 around it was to get what they called the world's biggest get well 293 00:13:37,290 --> 00:13:40,600 soon card that all of the punters in the club signed. 294 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,470 And they sent this massive get well soon card to Kylie at the time. 295 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:45,700 She loved it that much 296 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:46,860 it was on the docuseries. 297 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:51,670 No, it probably didn't fit into her archive room. 298 00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:52,750 Yeah. 299 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:56,260 Can I just say on a side note, by the way, that there is only one Kylie? 300 00:13:56,260 --> 00:13:59,390 Because there was a few years back, there was a whole legal thing 301 00:13:59,390 --> 00:14:02,240 between Kylie Jenner and Kylie Minogue, and there is only one Kylie. 302 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,410 There's only one Kylie. 303 00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:09,680 And she is globally famous, and the other one is famous for just being. 304 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:10,510 Just being? 305 00:14:10,510 --> 00:14:11,290 Just being. 306 00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:12,830 Not anything important. 307 00:14:12,830 --> 00:14:15,950 So I think the thing I wanted to impress was, 308 00:14:15,950 --> 00:14:18,730 like, Kylie has been the soundtrack to my life. 309 00:14:18,850 --> 00:14:21,200 I know for you, you feel that way as well, but, 310 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,270 like, moving forward from that era, there was a little period 311 00:14:25,270 --> 00:14:28,610 of my life in 2004 where I moved to Spain. 312 00:14:28,610 --> 00:14:33,020 I lived in Granada and Barcelona for a little while, and a 313 00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:38,450 few months before I moved to Barcelona, the Slow music video came 314 00:14:38,450 --> 00:14:40,800 out, and it was just, it was such a big thing. 315 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:47,680 But that was shot at the Piscina Municipal de Montjuic in Barcelona. 316 00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:52,510 And whenever I hear that song, it makes me think of the video, and 317 00:14:52,510 --> 00:14:57,390 it immediately brings me back to that time when I lived in Barcelona, because 318 00:14:57,390 --> 00:15:03,280 that was such a special time in my 20s, and I just love it. 319 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,060 And that's what I mean by Kylie being the soundtrack to 320 00:15:06,060 --> 00:15:08,620 my life, because there are just songs that I hear, and 321 00:15:08,620 --> 00:15:11,810 it brings me back to a specific moment in time. 322 00:15:11,810 --> 00:15:13,420 You not singing that one, no? 323 00:15:13,420 --> 00:15:14,280 No. 324 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,570 ♪ Slow ♪♪ 325 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,410 Now, the one that takes me back to a specific time in my 326 00:15:21,410 --> 00:15:25,980 life is Spinning Around, and I remember going into Delmonica's in Glasgow for 327 00:15:25,980 --> 00:15:28,480 the first time ever, and I wasn't out at this point. 328 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,870 Delmonica's, in case you don't know, is a famous gay 329 00:15:31,870 --> 00:15:34,490 bar in Glasgow, and it was the old Delmonica's. 330 00:15:34,490 --> 00:15:36,540 And Alan, if you didn't know, is a screaming 331 00:15:36,540 --> 00:15:38,600 queen, so how he wasn't out is beyond me. 332 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,720 I was 20 at the time. 333 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,600 And so Spinning Around was on, and it was in the old Delmonica's, and they 334 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,830 used to have these like, brown booths all along, like the side of the wall, 335 00:15:49,830 --> 00:15:53,210 and there was like, guys up on the table, like, dancing to it, and it 336 00:15:53,210 --> 00:15:56,720 was packed, and I was just like, what the hell is this? 337 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,260 But I want to be part of it. 338 00:15:58,260 --> 00:16:00,400 Grease me up and throw me in. 339 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:06,070 And, uh, Spinning Around is just, it just takes me straight back. 340 00:16:06,070 --> 00:16:09,990 I can even, if I close my eyes, I can see where I was standing, and 341 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:15,470 the bar, and it's just, yeah, one of those tunes that just takes me back to 342 00:16:15,470 --> 00:16:20,780 some good memories, but also like, oh Jesus, I need to, you know, change my life. 343 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:23,110 I need to become a homosexual. 344 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:26,080 I didn't need to change, I just had to accept that I was a homosexual. 345 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,970 So basically what you're saying is that Kylie 346 00:16:27,970 --> 00:16:29,810 helped you realise that you love dick? 347 00:16:29,810 --> 00:16:31,110 Pretty much, yeah. 348 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:36,710 I think that that is a very relatable story, Alan. 349 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:39,340 I mean, many, many guys have felt like that. 350 00:16:39,340 --> 00:16:42,910 And there's so many other eras of Kylie that mean so much to 351 00:16:42,910 --> 00:16:48,480 me, like, a few years after that, she released X in 2007. 352 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:54,190 And then in 2008, I ran a marathon for the first time ever. 353 00:16:54,190 --> 00:16:58,200 So that album, the X album, I listened to all the 354 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,830 time when I was out running and training for the marathon. 355 00:17:00,830 --> 00:17:04,250 And again, that era just, it reminds me 356 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:07,870 of me finding fitness, becoming really empowered. 357 00:17:07,870 --> 00:17:10,160 That was when I, like, really changed my life. 358 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,450 I stopped, like, all the badness. 359 00:17:12,550 --> 00:17:16,710 I stopped partying, stopped smoking, found the gym, found running. 360 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:21,480 And that X album just, for me, signifies me coming into my power, 361 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,660 me finding myself, me becoming strong, and just, like, living my life the 362 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:30,700 way I wanted to live it, really, truly, properly for the first time. 363 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:35,060 And there's so many songs off that album, like, ♪ Wow, wow, wow ♪♪ 364 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:37,320 I think you'll find it's, ♪ Wow, wow, wow, wow! ♪♪ 365 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,420 Oh, it's so good. 366 00:17:38,420 --> 00:17:40,210 Has that got The One on it? 367 00:17:40,210 --> 00:17:41,090 The One. 368 00:17:41,090 --> 00:17:42,580 That is amazing, that song. 369 00:17:42,850 --> 00:17:45,730 I don't think Kylie ever thought that that was going to be, like, a 370 00:17:45,730 --> 00:17:48,820 big song off the album, but it just, it hit a note with everybody. 371 00:17:48,820 --> 00:17:52,200 Like, that's my favourite song off that album, is The One. 372 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,900 In particular, is it Freemasons remix? 373 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:56,140 I think it might be. 374 00:17:56,140 --> 00:17:57,410 It's really good off that. 375 00:17:57,410 --> 00:18:02,540 Okay. But little aside here, Kylie brought her X tour to Belfast. 376 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:04,550 She did four consecutive nights. 377 00:18:04,550 --> 00:18:06,600 And Derec went to all four of them. 378 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,590 No, I didn't actually. 379 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:09,360 I couldn't get the night off work for one of them. 380 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:11,390 So I went to three of the four nights. 381 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,890 And on the first night, she was doing her crowd work and stuff. 382 00:18:14,890 --> 00:18:16,950 I was up really close near the front 383 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:20,430 of the stage, and people were shouting requests. 384 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:24,650 And The One was not on her set list. 385 00:18:24,650 --> 00:18:29,070 And I was jumping up and down and screaming, sing The One, sing The One. 386 00:18:29,070 --> 00:18:30,230 And pointing my finger up. 387 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:35,840 And I swear to God, Kylie Minogue looked at me, made eye contact with me. 388 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,320 What's that little gay Irish boy saying? 389 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,380 Yeah, pretty much. 390 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:39,720 And she laughed. 391 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,890 She smiled and laughed. 392 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:46,850 And I, shit you not, the next night, The One was on her playlist. 393 00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:48,000 And that's the night he was working. 394 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,210 No, I was there. 395 00:18:52,210 --> 00:18:54,820 And when I tell you that my little gay heart 396 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:57,880 just sang along with her, it was an amazing night. 397 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,060 And I will, hold on, 398 00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:02,060 I am taking credit for the fact that Kylie added 399 00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:04,390 The One to her set list during the X tour. 400 00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:05,900 That's your claim to fame. 401 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:08,650 Whether that is actually what happened or not, I don't know. 402 00:19:08,650 --> 00:19:09,990 But I'm taking the credit. 403 00:19:11,020 --> 00:19:14,810 And even after that, all those years later, there are so many 404 00:19:14,810 --> 00:19:18,760 Kylie moments and songs that, like, again, have soundtracked our life. 405 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:19,690 Do you know what? 406 00:19:19,690 --> 00:19:22,870 It's like she just knows what we need at the right time, 407 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:26,780 because obviously she brought out the disco album during lockdown, and everybody 408 00:19:26,780 --> 00:19:30,010 was just like, thank you, Kylie, this is exactly what we needed. 409 00:19:30,010 --> 00:19:31,040 Yeah, she saved us. 410 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,740 So we held, obviously during lockdown, we couldn't really see anyone, but 411 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:37,780 it was my friend's birthday, one of my best friends, David. 412 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:40,820 And we had a little birthday party in the garden, so 413 00:19:40,820 --> 00:19:44,590 it was me, Derec, my friend David, and his partner, Gordon. 414 00:19:44,590 --> 00:19:48,070 And we brought the TV to the patio doors at the back, so 415 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:51,810 that we could sit in the garden, because she did a live... 416 00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:53,200 Infinite disco. 417 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,250 And it was such a special night. 418 00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:57,520 That night, I'll always remember that, because 419 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,240 it was October, it was freezing. 420 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,770 Yeah. 421 00:19:59,770 --> 00:20:01,880 And we had a little outdoor heater, and 422 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,950 it felt like we were at the concert. 423 00:20:03,950 --> 00:20:04,910 It was so intimate. 424 00:20:05,810 --> 00:20:07,390 And like I said, it was just... 425 00:20:07,390 --> 00:20:09,680 It just felt like Kylie knew what we needed at the time. 426 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,710 Yeah. It was very special that night. 427 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:15,520 And also, I think it would be remiss of us not to 428 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,980 talk about our wedding, because we got married during the pandemic. 429 00:20:20,980 --> 00:20:25,490 We got married at the end of the first COVID lockdown in the UK. 430 00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:28,870 August 2020, so between lockdown one and lockdown two. 431 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:31,730 And we could only have a registry office wedding, and 432 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:34,760 then 15 people back at the house, in the garden. 433 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,610 We had a big gazebo up, and it was 434 00:20:37,610 --> 00:20:40,930 such a brilliant day, and we played Kylie. 435 00:20:40,930 --> 00:20:47,320 Yeah, so there's two songs off her Golden album that immediately, 436 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,380 and I mean, when I say immediately bring me back to 437 00:20:50,380 --> 00:20:54,400 our wedding day, I mean, often make my eyes water, give 438 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,900 me goosebumps, but it is Love and Stop Me From Falling. 439 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:01,630 Those are the two songs off that album that 440 00:21:01,630 --> 00:21:03,870 immediately just make me remember our wedding day. 441 00:21:03,870 --> 00:21:07,350 Yeah, so Love was our first dance, essentially, even though we didn't really 442 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:10,810 have something like that, but that's, we had a wee boogie to that, 443 00:21:10,810 --> 00:21:13,960 and then towards the end of the night, we had people in the 444 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,730 house when we shouldn't have, because it was, it got cold, it was 445 00:21:16,730 --> 00:21:18,920 a stunning day, the weather was amazing that day. 446 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,690 It got drunk. 447 00:21:19,690 --> 00:21:22,770 It got drunk, and I think it was like midnight or something like 448 00:21:22,770 --> 00:21:26,770 that, we were all dancing in the kitchen to, ♪ Stop me from falling ♪♪ 449 00:21:26,770 --> 00:21:30,330 I will say, we had the patio doors open, so we were semi-responsible. 450 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:31,520 Yeah. It was kind of outdoors. 451 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,080 It was. 452 00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:34,750 That was six years ago, so it's fine. 453 00:21:34,750 --> 00:21:36,790 And we now live in another country, so they're 454 00:21:36,790 --> 00:21:38,750 not going to arrest us for it, but yeah. 455 00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:39,370 Track and trace. 456 00:21:39,370 --> 00:21:41,120 Whoa. 457 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,290 That was a flashback. 458 00:21:42,290 --> 00:21:43,820 Nobody got sick, so it was all good. 459 00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:45,120 Right, let's do it then. 460 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:47,050 Top five Kylie songs. 461 00:21:47,050 --> 00:21:48,230 Oh no, don't make me pick. 462 00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:52,130 So my number one is Love at First Sight. 463 00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:54,770 Derec is actually sweating right now. 464 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:58,410 So this is really difficult, because my favourite Kylie songs change 465 00:21:58,410 --> 00:22:01,770 all the time, but I'm going to say my number one 466 00:22:01,770 --> 00:22:05,390 is actually one of her recent ones, and it's Padam Padam. 467 00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:06,060 Go on then, sing it. 468 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:09,050 ♪ You look like fun to me ♪♪ 469 00:22:09,050 --> 00:22:11,810 ♪ You look a little like somebody ♪♪ 470 00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:12,530 Oh, the whole thing? 471 00:22:12,530 --> 00:22:17,100 No, it was just the Padam Padam that I was asking for, but yeah. 472 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:20,100 Padam Padam, I think, is actually my number one of all time. 473 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:21,170 I just love it. 474 00:22:21,170 --> 00:22:25,120 It's like, because it was such a global phenomenon. 475 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:29,220 The first time I ever heard it was here in Maspalomas, in 476 00:22:29,220 --> 00:22:32,120 Gran Canaria, when we were on holiday before we moved here. 477 00:22:32,130 --> 00:22:35,510 I think we'd been down to Poké Station for a wee Poké Bowl. 478 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:38,120 And that is not a euphemism, by the way. 479 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,720 We actually went for some food. 480 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,470 So I remember walking past, like, Greenfield and that, 481 00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:44,430 and you were playing it on your phone. 482 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:48,900 And do you remember how excited I got when I heard that for the first time? 483 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:50,460 Yeah, I think you came in your pants a little bit. 484 00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:51,230 Yeah, I did. 485 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:53,010 I was like, my God, Kylie is so back. 486 00:22:53,010 --> 00:22:57,270 I think my number two is probably Better the Devil You Know. 487 00:23:02,130 --> 00:23:04,440 I mean, that is like just a classic. 488 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,650 As soon as you hear that, you're like, it's a bit like Shania Twain. 489 00:23:07,650 --> 00:23:08,590 Come on, girls! 490 00:23:08,590 --> 00:23:11,740 That is a tune. 491 00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:12,850 That's an absolute tune. 492 00:23:12,850 --> 00:23:14,570 I'm going to say, Come Into My World. 493 00:23:14,570 --> 00:23:17,420 One of the things I love most about it is the music video. 494 00:23:17,420 --> 00:23:19,540 Yeah. Maybe if somebody was to see it for the 495 00:23:19,540 --> 00:23:21,300 first time now, they wouldn't think much of it. 496 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:26,840 But at the time, it was just such an innovative and well-done music video. 497 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,190 All one continuous shot. 498 00:23:28,190 --> 00:23:31,060 And then Kylie is overlaid and edited over 499 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:33,070 herself, walking through the streets of Paris. 500 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,340 And then there's like a million Kylie's by the end of it. 501 00:23:35,340 --> 00:23:36,690 Okay, that's a good number two. 502 00:23:36,690 --> 00:23:38,610 I would say number three is The One. 503 00:23:38,610 --> 00:23:41,870 We've already mentioned that, but that is just like amazing. 504 00:23:41,870 --> 00:23:42,690 Yeah. 505 00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:44,930 There's another song that I really love that 506 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:47,170 gets an honourable mention at this point. 507 00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:50,070 And again, it reminds me of a point in our 508 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:52,660 lives a few years ago when we went to Vegas. 509 00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:55,490 And unfortunately, we were there a few weeks too early 510 00:23:55,490 --> 00:23:58,970 because we'd had the trip planned for ages to go. 511 00:23:58,970 --> 00:24:00,600 We got tickets to see Adele. 512 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:04,390 And we were unfortunately just a few weeks too early 513 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:07,730 to see Kylie because she was doing her residency there. 514 00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:11,650 But we visited and we saw like all the big Kylie posters up and stuff. 515 00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:15,580 And it was like, oh God, I wish we were here for that as well. 516 00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:17,910 The Tension album was out at that time. 517 00:24:17,910 --> 00:24:22,090 And there's a song on that called Vegas High, which again, just I 518 00:24:22,090 --> 00:24:25,320 love because it connects me to that moment in time and that trip. 519 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,690 Okay, that's a good one. 520 00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:29,680 I would say my number four is... 521 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,860 ♪ Los Amores ♪♪ All the Lovers. 522 00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:35,300 Oh yeah, and she did... 523 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:36,960 And I like the Spanish version that she did of it. 524 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,880 Yeah, the Spanish version was really good, actually. 525 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,920 It's good. 526 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,020 Oh God, this is so putting me on the spot. 527 00:24:42,020 --> 00:24:43,510 I am sweating now. 528 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:45,940 And could I just say, All the Lovers reminds 529 00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:47,650 me of the time we went to Belgium. 530 00:24:47,650 --> 00:24:50,110 So that's another reason why I like that. 531 00:24:50,110 --> 00:24:54,650 I think we've already mentioned it, but So Now Goodbye of 532 00:24:54,650 --> 00:24:58,670 Light Years is just such a happy, upbeat, pop tune, and 533 00:24:58,670 --> 00:25:01,230 it's so empowering, and it means so much to me. 534 00:25:01,230 --> 00:25:02,560 So I'm going to give that my number four. 535 00:25:02,850 --> 00:25:06,890 Okay. Now, I did say that if Your Disco Needs You isn't in your top 536 00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:09,370 five, then you need to hand back your gay card, but I've already said 537 00:25:09,370 --> 00:25:11,280 that, so I'm not going to put it in my top five. 538 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,650 Because my gay card is well and truly in my pocket. 539 00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:16,960 Thank God, because that is my number five. 540 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,260 Okay, we can share it then. 541 00:25:19,260 --> 00:25:21,260 So I would say then, from the disco 542 00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:23,770 album, Dance Floor Darling is my number five. 543 00:25:23,770 --> 00:25:24,300 Oh! 544 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:26,320 Is that a curveball? 545 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,640 That is a curveball, but it's a really good song. 546 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,480 And I think, let's just wrap up this section as well, just by 547 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,940 talking about Story, because that is the last track on the Tension album. 548 00:25:36,940 --> 00:25:38,610 It's an amazing song. 549 00:25:38,610 --> 00:25:40,590 It's, like, really euphoric. 550 00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:41,640 It's really upbeat. 551 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,350 I always thought it was a really 552 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:45,820 brilliant choice to finish the Tension album. 553 00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:50,600 It's just, like, the Tension album goes out with a bang because of that. 554 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,300 But Kylie tells the story about Story in the docuseries. 555 00:25:56,300 --> 00:26:00,900 We won't spoil it in case anybody hasn't watched it, but I think 556 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:05,570 that song, I've always loved that song since the album came out, but 557 00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:09,840 knowing the story behind it now just gives it a whole new meaning. 558 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,400 Yeah. And makes me love it even more. 559 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,950 Yes. 560 00:26:11,950 --> 00:26:16,000 So that is our history with Kylie and our relationship with Kylie. 561 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,120 We hope we haven't bored you or burst your eardrums with all the singing. 562 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,170 Can I just say, though, the new single that 563 00:26:21,170 --> 00:26:23,940 came out, Light Up, for the docuseries, brilliant. 564 00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:27,060 And tour next year, which we're so going 565 00:26:27,060 --> 00:26:28,540 to because we couldn't go last year. 566 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:33,240 This one is going to be big because this is her 40th anniversary in the 567 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:39,370 biz tour, and she's let slip accidentally on purpose that it's in the works. 568 00:26:39,370 --> 00:26:40,990 So yeah, we will be there. 569 00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:42,060 Always be promoting. 570 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:43,060 Yeah, she'll let it slip. 571 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:44,920 Yeah, we will be there. 572 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,420 I'm thinking, hopefully, she does a date in Barcelona. 573 00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:49,030 We'll get a little flight over. 574 00:26:49,030 --> 00:26:51,120 She might even do Gran Canaria Stadium. 575 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:51,640 We never know. 576 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,230 Gay gasp. 577 00:26:53,230 --> 00:26:53,810 We'd love that. 578 00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:55,860 Okay, let's... 579 00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:57,290 Have we talked enough about Kylie? 580 00:26:57,290 --> 00:26:58,010 No, we haven't. 581 00:26:58,010 --> 00:26:59,320 Oh my God, I can never... 582 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,490 But I'm sure people are sick of listening to us, so... 583 00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:05,590 And also, this is going to be a very long edit. 584 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,260 Unless we stop talking and move on. 585 00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:08,250 Let's stop talking. 586 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:09,680 Right. 587 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,360 From the Queen of Pop, let's move on to something a little 588 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:17,740 more serious, and this is something affecting transgender people in the UK. 589 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:23,560 So, after quite a long wait, the EHRC has finally published 590 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:29,450 its guidance on single-sex spaces, following the Supreme Court ruling. 591 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,640 And the UK government are being very guarded about it, 592 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,360 and not really giving, like, charities or organisations enough time. 593 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,770 It's making it really difficult. 594 00:27:37,770 --> 00:27:41,500 Yeah, this guidance was supposed to give clarity, and I 595 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:45,500 don't think anybody feels that it gives clarity whatsoever. 596 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:48,720 It is just an absolute mess. 597 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,870 Yeah, so basically they've issued a new 340-page draft code 598 00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:56,580 of practice, and it applies to England, Scotland, and Wales. 599 00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:59,830 And under the guidance, single-sex spaces, including public 600 00:27:59,830 --> 00:28:02,880 toilets, changing rooms, and hospital wards, must exclude 601 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,880 transgender people based on their gender identity. 602 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,180 So we're going back rather than going forward, unfortunately. 603 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:13,660 A lot of this guidance was worked up under the previous chair of 604 00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:21,050 the EHRC, Baroness Faulkner, who, since she left the organisation, she has given 605 00:28:21,050 --> 00:28:24,270 quite a few interviews and she's said quite a few things that make 606 00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:27,980 it absolutely beyond doubt that she is a rotten transphobe. 607 00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:32,550 She should never, like, never have been put into that position. 608 00:28:32,550 --> 00:28:36,320 She was put in by the previous Tory government and she 609 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,690 was not fit for the role because of her rabid transphobia. 610 00:28:40,690 --> 00:28:43,630 So we're already starting from that place. 611 00:28:43,630 --> 00:28:46,950 The new chair that took over last year, who was appointed by 612 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:52,930 the Labour government, that is Mary-Ann Stephenson, she was appointed despite the 613 00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:57,750 fact that both the Women and Equalities Committee and the Joint Committee 614 00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:02,900 on Human Rights, in the Houses of Parliament, had both raised objections 615 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:07,540 about her appointment, stating that her experience was not sufficient. 616 00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:12,930 And there were quite a lot of LGBT voices that spoke at that 617 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:20,630 time to suggest that Mary-Ann Stephenson had some links to transphobic organisations. 618 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:22,430 How can that be impartial? 619 00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:24,670 It's just unbelievable. 620 00:29:24,670 --> 00:29:25,690 Yeah. 621 00:29:25,690 --> 00:29:28,850 The whole thing is, it absolutely stinks to high heaven. 622 00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:29,900 It really does. 623 00:29:30,090 --> 00:29:34,260 And there's a trans rights group, Trans Actual, and they've strongly condemned 624 00:29:34,260 --> 00:29:38,260 the draft, saying that it's rolling back existing protections, so actually 625 00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:41,960 things are worse for trans people after this has been released. 626 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,400 And they criticise the government for a lack 627 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,320 of transparency and engagement with the community. 628 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,800 So the UK government, once this has been released, 629 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,150 aren't even contacting or working with trans rights groups. 630 00:29:55,150 --> 00:29:57,130 Yeah. Because they just want to force it through. 631 00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:59,250 And let's face it, it's not just trans 632 00:29:59,250 --> 00:30:01,110 rights groups that they need to engage with. 633 00:30:01,110 --> 00:30:05,330 This will impact so many other people. 634 00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:10,130 There are a lot of cisgender women who are going to be impacted by this. 635 00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:13,560 So although the draft guidance says that people should not 636 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,980 be routinely challenged in single-sex facilities, it does say that 637 00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:22,970 where there are concerns raised about somebody's appearance or behaviour, 638 00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:25,400 that it is appropriate to challenge them. 639 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,690 But, I mean, what qualifies somebody to 640 00:30:27,690 --> 00:30:30,060 be challenged based on their appearance? 641 00:30:30,790 --> 00:30:32,470 Is it because they're not feminine enough? 642 00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:34,640 Is it because they don't conform by 643 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,280 wearing what's considered to be feminine clothing? 644 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,690 Is it somebody who is bald? 645 00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:44,530 So, for instance, does somebody who's going through chemotherapy 646 00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:48,360 have to worry about being challenged in women's toilets? 647 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,100 What about if somebody, a cisgender woman, is quite tall? 648 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:56,580 Does she have to worry about being challenged in toilets? 649 00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:59,210 What if a cisgender woman has a deep voice? 650 00:30:59,210 --> 00:31:02,270 What if a cisgender woman has Polycystic Ovary 651 00:31:02,270 --> 00:31:04,300 Syndrome and perhaps has some facial hair? 652 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:05,560 Does she have to worry? 653 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,390 I mean, this is, it's actually quite misogynist policy because 654 00:31:11,390 --> 00:31:15,590 it almost will force women to have to adopt to 655 00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:19,770 these ridiculous standards of what a woman should be. 656 00:31:19,770 --> 00:31:23,570 Yeah, there was a paragraph on it that I just was totally shocked at. 657 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:27,170 It said, the code states that actively questioning people about 658 00:31:27,170 --> 00:31:29,840 their sex in a restroom is unlikely to be appropriate. 659 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,010 Duh. 660 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:32,580 In most scenarios. 661 00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:34,330 No, in any scenario. 662 00:31:34,330 --> 00:31:36,180 How could you say in most scenarios? 663 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:39,490 Though intervention might be deemed justified if other 664 00:31:39,490 --> 00:31:43,030 users raise concerns about appearance or behaviour. 665 00:31:43,030 --> 00:31:44,720 It's just shocking. 666 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,070 And it provides no clarity. 667 00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:48,310 There's nothing there. 668 00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:49,570 That's wishy-washy. 669 00:31:49,570 --> 00:31:55,860 And what's to stop a cisgender man pretending to be a trans man 670 00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:59,820 to go into a women's bathroom because that's what the rules are saying? 671 00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:03,360 You have to go to the bathroom or the facility that 672 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,950 you have been the sex that you've been assigned at birth. 673 00:32:05,950 --> 00:32:06,930 Exactly. 674 00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:11,580 And it puts trans men in a really awful position as well. 675 00:32:11,580 --> 00:32:14,740 I mean, it puts them in a dangerous position because if an 676 00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:19,390 aggressive cisgender man sees what they see as a man going into 677 00:32:19,390 --> 00:32:22,800 the women's toilets, what's to say that they won't go in and 678 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,000 drag them out and beat them up or something? 679 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,420 It's so dangerous. 680 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:34,360 And again, these transphobes view transgender men as biological women. 681 00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:37,280 That's what they want to call them. 682 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,940 It's really horrible that they do that, 683 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:41,340 but how is that protecting them then? 684 00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:44,210 They say that they want to protect what they call biological women. 685 00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:45,840 How is that protecting that person? 686 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,430 It's not. It's putting them in danger. 687 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:49,480 Yeah, it's shocking. 688 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,500 And it's so sad to see that things 689 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:53,420 are being rolled back rather than moving forward. 690 00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:57,870 In real stock contrast, there's a huge news story in the UK at the 691 00:32:57,870 --> 00:33:02,830 moment, and it's about those two young guys who were found guilty of rape. 692 00:33:02,830 --> 00:33:08,610 They recorded themselves raping a young girl, and they've 693 00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:11,610 got off without a prison sentence, because the judge 694 00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:14,870 thought that they didn't deserve a prison sentence. 695 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:19,920 I think for me, it's just that all of this focus, all of this emphasis 696 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:27,040 on where transgender people can piss, and it so has taken away from what the 697 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,200 actual danger for women and girls is, like, that should be our focus. 698 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,870 But instead, there's just so many newspaper columns, so 699 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:40,760 much broadcast has been devoted to this absolute non-issue 700 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,780 of trans people going for a piss somewhere. 701 00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:45,430 Yeah, it's shocking. 702 00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:46,530 Absolutely shocking. 703 00:33:46,530 --> 00:33:50,960 Now, the fight isn't over because India Willoughby, who's a trans activist, 704 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,570 has said that trans people may have lost the crazy battle of 705 00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:57,020 the bogs, but we haven't lost the war, and Europe beckons. 706 00:33:57,020 --> 00:34:01,480 And basically, the piece which is in Attitude magazine is 707 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,150 saying it will go to the European courts, and then 708 00:34:05,150 --> 00:34:08,280 hopefully there'll be some positive outcomes from that. 709 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,250 Yeah. 710 00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:12,860 Let's face it, all of our equalities and advancements 711 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:15,630 have had to go through the European courts, so 712 00:34:15,630 --> 00:34:18,260 this is probably where we're heading with this now. 713 00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:24,550 So if we have got any of our trans siblings listening in, we're very 714 00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:28,240 sorry that you are at the centre of the battlefield at the minute. 715 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,020 It's horrible, but we're with you. 716 00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,760 We are always going to be allies. 717 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:37,100 We'll always use our voices and our activism to do what we can for you. 718 00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,860 Yeah. Hopefully the next time there's a story about it, it'll be 719 00:34:39,860 --> 00:34:42,320 positive and no doubt we will be sharing that as well. 720 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,230 Yeah. 721 00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:43,930 Right. 722 00:34:43,930 --> 00:34:44,530 Okay. 723 00:34:44,530 --> 00:34:46,230 Let's move on now with the show. 724 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:48,840 So our last section is the fitness section. 725 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,700 And this week we have a little bit of 726 00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:53,370 a focus on nutrition and in particular protein. 727 00:34:53,390 --> 00:34:57,710 Yeah. So protein targets for a lot of people are quite hard to meet. 728 00:34:57,710 --> 00:35:00,730 And obviously there's a cost of the living crisis at the minute as well. 729 00:35:00,730 --> 00:35:03,280 So what we've come up with is how to meet your 730 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,890 protein intake without it costing an arm and a leg. 731 00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:10,360 I did a little bit of research yesterday and you know I love a spreadsheet. 732 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,540 You do love a spreadsheet. 733 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:12,680 I do love a spreadsheet. 734 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,780 So I went on to Tesco's website. 735 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,010 I looked at lots of different products and 736 00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:20,370 the nutritional info and how much it costs. 737 00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:25,450 And I created a spreadsheet which calculates what the price of 738 00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:29,560 100 grams of protein would be for each food source. 739 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,530 So it kind of breaks it down for what the cheapest sources are. 740 00:35:33,530 --> 00:35:37,760 Caveats to this are: doesn't include the cost of cooking. 741 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,190 It is just purely what the protein source is. 742 00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:43,210 We're going to include plant-based and animal products in the section. 743 00:35:43,210 --> 00:35:49,040 Prices are based on Tesco's website, which is from the 23rd of May, 2026. 744 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040 And some of these are also current Clubcard prices as well. 745 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,580 And some of the foods will be high in carb content, and 746 00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:58,610 you'd need to eat a lot to get a high protein intake. 747 00:35:58,610 --> 00:36:01,520 So yeah, just to emphasise again, we're just 748 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,590 talking about purely what the protein is. 749 00:36:03,590 --> 00:36:06,100 Starting off at the very cheapest that I could 750 00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:10,370 find, this might surprise some people, but it is 751 00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:15,890 Tesco's cheap pasta, the Hearty Food Co spaghetti pasta. 752 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:19,610 Per 100 grams, there's actually 12.5 753 00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:21,550 grams of protein in the pasta. 754 00:36:21,550 --> 00:36:25,490 Now, when people think of protein sources, they generally don't think of 755 00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:28,130 things like pasta, but yeah, there is quite a lot there. 756 00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:34,690 So that works out at 45 pence per 100 grams of protein. 757 00:36:34,690 --> 00:36:37,090 And see, to be honest, like 100 grams 758 00:36:37,090 --> 00:36:39,060 of spaghetti is actually a decent meal. 759 00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:42,570 You know, like we would normally have like 75 grams, 100 760 00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:45,330 grams of pasta when we're having like a pasta dish. 761 00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:47,450 So that is so cheap for 12.5 762 00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:48,860 grams of protein. 763 00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:51,320 Moving forward, a lot of this, then, at 764 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,070 the cheaper end of the scale, is plant-based. 765 00:36:54,070 --> 00:36:56,290 In case you don't know, Derec and I are plant-based. 766 00:36:56,290 --> 00:36:58,200 For us, this is a bit of a no-brainer. 767 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,210 That is not to say, though, as we move down 768 00:37:00,210 --> 00:37:03,050 the list, you'll see not all plant-based sources are cheap. 769 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:04,200 No. 770 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,980 Tofu, you little shit! 771 00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:06,780 Yeah. 772 00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:12,380 But, lentils, chickpeas, all really, really cheap here. 773 00:37:12,380 --> 00:37:17,120 Red split lentils, 58 pence per 100 grams of protein. 774 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,600 Perhaps if you make a bolognese, why don't 775 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,510 you add some lentils to the bolognese? 776 00:37:22,510 --> 00:37:26,060 It'll increase the amount of protein in the dish really cheaply. 777 00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:30,420 The chickpeas, dried chickpeas, 71 pence per 100 grams of protein. 778 00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:35,660 Now, and this is a little tip, the world food aisle is your friend. 779 00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:37,660 It's your best friend for this stuff. 780 00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:42,860 This is where you would find quite a lot of Indian food and world cuisines. 781 00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:46,490 It's the aisle in Tesco where they sell the massive bags of rice. 782 00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:47,930 That is so good. 783 00:37:47,930 --> 00:37:52,330 They do some brands there where you can buy lentils, chickpeas, other 784 00:37:52,330 --> 00:37:55,910 dried beans, things like that, and it is really good value. 785 00:37:55,910 --> 00:38:00,980 So the lentils that I've quoted there, it's the Laila red split lentils, the 786 00:38:00,980 --> 00:38:06,820 dried ones, and they work out at 58 pence for 100 grams of protein. 787 00:38:06,820 --> 00:38:11,400 You make a really mean dahl using red split lentils. 788 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,030 Do you know what? 789 00:38:12,030 --> 00:38:15,330 See, when you were doing this research and we were talking about 790 00:38:15,330 --> 00:38:17,970 lentils, and I was like, we've not had a dahl in ages. 791 00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:20,320 I don't think we've had a dahl, a homemade dahl since we moved 792 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,800 here, so I was thinking we need to get back into that. 793 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,060 You make us one tonight, then. 794 00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:24,700 No. 795 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:30,390 Another benefit of these plant-based protein sources at the bottom of this list 796 00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:33,710 is that they generally tend to be quite high in fibre as well. 797 00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:38,920 We've talked to death about fibre on this show, but especially for, if you 798 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,330 are a guy who bottoms and you want to increase your fibre intake for 799 00:38:42,330 --> 00:38:46,540 that reason, or in general, for other health reasons, if you want to increase 800 00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:49,470 your fibre intake, this is a really good way of doing both. 801 00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:52,820 You can get fibre and protein from one food source. 802 00:38:52,820 --> 00:38:53,990 We call that a win-win. 803 00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:56,860 A win-win without a wipe-wipe. 804 00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:57,450 Wow. 805 00:38:57,450 --> 00:39:01,830 Other things here, like green lentils, 77 pence per 100 grams of protein. 806 00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:02,800 Porridge oats. 807 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,610 Brilliant. 808 00:39:03,610 --> 00:39:08,160 There's 11 grams of protein per 100 grams of porridge oats, which works 809 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,720 out as 77 pence per 100 grams of protein of that food source. 810 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,140 Now, obviously, you're not going to have 100 811 00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:16,200 grams of oats, because that's quite a lot. 812 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,580 So, like, we make overnight oats, and I would have 50 grams. 813 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:22,910 So, if you think about it over the week, you know, and we 814 00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:27,480 speak about, like, your calorie goals and macro goals, it's a weekly target. 815 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,110 So, you're getting a not bad amount 816 00:39:29,110 --> 00:39:31,570 of protein over two days there, basically. 817 00:39:31,570 --> 00:39:35,310 So, again, we're going up the list, like, dried kidney beans, really cheap. 818 00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:38,750 Another one, so this is something that's in the world foods aisle. 819 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:40,090 This comes in next. 820 00:39:40,090 --> 00:39:44,210 It works out as £1 per 100 grams of protein. 821 00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:47,800 It has got 21 grams of protein per 100 grams. 822 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,100 So, not a lot of people will know, might 823 00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:54,190 know what this is, but it's Besan gram flour. 824 00:39:54,190 --> 00:39:57,640 It is a flour that is made from milled 825 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,100 lentils and chickpeas, and it's really, really good. 826 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:07,290 We used to use it to make, like, a plant-based Spanish tortilla. 827 00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:09,410 So, we had this recipe for it, and it was 828 00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:13,200 really good for that, and it's super high in protein. 829 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,890 It's really, really cheap, and there are quite a few recipes out 830 00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:18,930 there for things that you can make with it, or you can 831 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:23,150 substitute it for ordinary flour, or, like, a really high-protein alternative. 832 00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:25,450 I'm just going to jump in and say you've not made that in a while. 833 00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:29,300 Okay, I think I need to make that, given that we now live in Spain. 834 00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:30,820 I definitely need to make that. 835 00:40:30,820 --> 00:40:33,550 So, moving on, we have got peanut-based products. 836 00:40:33,550 --> 00:40:36,460 So, the first one is the Tesco own-brand smooth peanut butter. 837 00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:41,410 That works out as £1.34 per 100 grams of protein, and also in the world 838 00:40:41,410 --> 00:40:47,570 food aisle, the Asani red skin peanut kernels, and that works out as £1.40 839 00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:50,090 per 100 grams of protein. 840 00:40:50,090 --> 00:40:52,000 For both the peanut butter and the peanut kernels, 841 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,490 around about a quarter of their content is protein. 842 00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:58,640 Yeah, peanuts are a good source of protein, but obviously you 843 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,340 need to be aware of the fat content as well. 844 00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:04,750 So, if you're keeping an eye on your macros, just be aware of that. 845 00:41:04,750 --> 00:41:08,240 So, moving on, I don't think we need to go too far into this 846 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:12,560 list, but we are getting into where animal products start coming in now. 847 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,310 The cheapest, the very, very cheapest animal source of protein 848 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,000 that I could find was Frozen Butcher's Choice Chicken Fillets. 849 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,350 They are £1.52 850 00:41:24,350 --> 00:41:26,950 pence per 100 grams of protein. 851 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:30,830 Pretty decent, and obviously they're high in protein, 27.9g 852 00:41:30,830 --> 00:41:35,030 of protein per 100 grams, you know, chicken. Chicken's chicken. 853 00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:37,970 So, moving on down, again, frozen seems to be good 854 00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:41,030 value because there's the Bay Fishmonger's white fish fillets. 855 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:42,550 They come in at £2.09 856 00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:45,810 per 100 grams, and then we get into some 857 00:41:45,810 --> 00:41:47,500 tinned stuff as well, so like tinned tuna, 858 00:41:48,030 --> 00:41:50,560 which most people would think of as pretty cheap. 859 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,840 That is £2.32 860 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,820 per 100 grams of protein. 861 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:57,740 And a little caveat on that as well, just remember if you're buying one that's 862 00:41:57,740 --> 00:42:01,020 got sunflower oil in it, just be aware it's going to be higher in fat, 863 00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:04,620 so we'd always recommend maybe to go for one that's in spring water. 864 00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:06,740 Definitely, which that one is actually. 865 00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:10,160 Actually, what becomes a bit more expensive than that are beans. 866 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,770 Now, the prices that we quoted earlier were for dried beans and pulses. 867 00:42:14,770 --> 00:42:16,420 These ones are tinned. 868 00:42:16,930 --> 00:42:20,920 So, tinned kidney beans, tinned chickpeas, they come in at £2.39 869 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,930 and £2.40 870 00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:23,890 per 100 grams of protein. 871 00:42:23,890 --> 00:42:25,590 And it's probably because they're cooked. 872 00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:28,490 That's probably why they're more expensive, because obviously they've had 873 00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:30,570 an extra process that they're having to charge for. 874 00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:32,790 Yeah, really good source of protein. 875 00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:35,180 However, the benefit of that is that you're going to reduce your 876 00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:38,150 food waste as well, because they are tinned, because they're long life. 877 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:41,640 There are other things here, like for instance, the next 878 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,430 thing on the list is chicken mince, which is £2.63, 879 00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:46,960 but that can expire 880 00:42:46,990 --> 00:42:50,080 quite quickly in your fridge, so there is always 881 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,730 the element of food waste with some of this stuff, whereas you 882 00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:55,390 don't get that with tinned and dried products quite so much. 883 00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:58,170 Okay, why don't we jump to the most expensive one? 884 00:42:58,170 --> 00:43:00,030 Because some people might be shocked by this. 885 00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:01,850 So, this is actually not the most expensive. 886 00:43:01,850 --> 00:43:04,880 I did not put the most expensive on the list, because it was too expensive. 887 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,250 You're like, I'm not made of money. 888 00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:07,970 I know. 889 00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:10,100 So, honestly, I didn't include lamb on 890 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:13,170 this, because lamb was ridiculously expensive. 891 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:15,090 Up at the top of the list is actually beef. 892 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,430 £5.62 893 00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:18,040 per 100 grams. 894 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,380 Not far off it, though. 895 00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:22,800 Just below that, actually, surprisingly, is tofu. 896 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,910 To be fair, so when we lived in Glasgow, we used to 897 00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:29,080 eat a lot of tofu and tempeh and things like that, which 898 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,420 are really good sources of protein, but they are expensive. 899 00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:34,140 And it's £4.04 900 00:43:34,140 --> 00:43:36,160 per 100 grams of protein. 901 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,330 So, if you're looking for an alternative protein source, 902 00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:41,950 tofu is actually really good, and it's probably in 903 00:43:41,950 --> 00:43:45,170 line with maybe what you're spending at the moment. 904 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:46,300 So, if you do want to try 905 00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:48,320 something different, then that's a good option. 906 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,780 Yeah. And generally, tofu is a little longer life than meat as well. 907 00:43:53,780 --> 00:43:55,630 So, again, less food waste from it. 908 00:43:55,630 --> 00:43:58,620 It's also quite an easy thing to digest. 909 00:43:58,620 --> 00:43:59,770 Yes. 910 00:43:59,770 --> 00:44:02,050 And if you're stuck on how to cook it, which a lot of 911 00:44:02,050 --> 00:44:05,610 people are, because we were at the start, give us a shout, because 912 00:44:05,610 --> 00:44:08,620 we have loads of recipes that we could send over to you. 913 00:44:08,620 --> 00:44:09,150 Yeah. 914 00:44:09,150 --> 00:44:11,520 But what we'll do as well is, during the week, on our 915 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,540 social media, we'll put out a little informational carousel with some of 916 00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:19,920 these details of the price of different protein sources, so that you 917 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,700 can see for yourself and you can check it out. 918 00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:25,380 So, yeah, that's a little rundown of some protein sources. 919 00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:29,020 So, if you are looking to increase your protein intake 920 00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:31,730 without it costing an arm and a leg during the 921 00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:35,500 cost of living crisis, there's some few pointers for you. 922 00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:36,260 Yes. 923 00:44:36,260 --> 00:44:36,990 And give us a shout. 924 00:44:36,990 --> 00:44:40,610 If you've found anything that's cheaper or something that's your 925 00:44:40,610 --> 00:44:42,830 go-to, why don't you let us know about it? 926 00:44:42,970 --> 00:44:47,660 You can pop us an email, and we will tell you just now how to do that. 927 00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:50,980 Yeah, remember, you can get in touch with us by email. 928 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:55,280 The address is podcast@outlift.ing 929 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,130 or you can drop us a DM on Instagram. 930 00:44:58,130 --> 00:45:01,510 Our handle is @outlift.ing 931 00:45:01,510 --> 00:45:05,350 But that is us for another week. 932 00:45:05,350 --> 00:45:08,460 Just a reminder, Alan and I run Outlifting, which is 933 00:45:08,460 --> 00:45:11,950 an online service for gay, bi, and trans guys who 934 00:45:11,950 --> 00:45:15,640 want to transform their bodies and build unstoppable confidence. 935 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,640 We do that through personalized online fitness coaching, 936 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,410 nutrition planning, accountability check-ins, and so much more. 937 00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:27,140 Now, if you think that you could benefit from our 938 00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:32,720 service and want to join the ever-growing Outlifting Pride community 939 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:36,140 of guys just like you, then get in touch. 940 00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:41,790 You can book a free, no-obligation, no-pressure discovery call with us. 941 00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:46,340 We will meet up with you by video to discuss your needs, your goals, 942 00:45:46,340 --> 00:45:51,010 and then we can explain how exactly we can help you reach them. 943 00:45:51,010 --> 00:45:54,540 You then can decide if we are a good fit for you. 944 00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:58,180 So, click the link in the show notes, book your 945 00:45:58,180 --> 00:46:01,000 call now, and we look forward to hearing from you. 946 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,790 We have a new show next week, and don't forget to subscribe 947 00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:08,450 on all major podcast platforms to keep up with the conversation. 948 00:46:08,450 --> 00:46:11,210 But for now, over and Outlifting.