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Playing my PlayStation because I am a gaymer.

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There you go.

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You'll be playing with your joystick and I'll be playing with mine.

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On your own.

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[music]

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Welcome to The Outlifting Lounge, the weekly show serving queer conversation,

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news and no-nonsense fitness for gay, bi and trans guys.

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I'm Alan.

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And I'm his husband, Derec.

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Coming up on today's show, we're going to be talking

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about shopping hauls, Drag Race, Madonna, bitching about Nigel Farage,

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and we will reveal the world's worst personal trainer.

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Stay tuned.

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[music ends]

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We are celebrating this week.

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What are we celebrating?

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Well, this might not seem big for some people, but

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we hit three and a half thousand followers on Instagram.

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We did, which is great.

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So thank you to everybody that has been following us

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and joining us on the ride that is Outlifting.

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The ride that is Outlifting.

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[laughs]

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The ride.

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Yeah, that's not going to be our new slogan.

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Yeah, it's been positive.

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We also got an email from a spammy, marketing person who

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wants to help us promote our podcast and they have revealed

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that we are the 35th most listened to podcast in Kyrgyzstan.

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Yes, under the category of sexuality, apparently.

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So there you go.

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If you're listening to us in Kyrgyzstan.

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Thank you very much.

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Hi.

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I don't know how to say hello in your language. Apologies.

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I really should have done more research before we started.

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Yeah, we're going to take that with a pinch of salt, I think.

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Yeah, a whole sea of salt.

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That's definitely not something we're going to be celebrating this week.

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35th in the sexuality category in Kyrgyzstan.

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That's an achievement.

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Yeah, apart from that, our week has been good.

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We managed to have a shopping day yesterday with our pal, Nik.

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We did, which was brilliant.

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Alan likes to shop.

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You were like Pretty Woman with all of your bags.

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I do like to shop, to be fair.

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Do you know what it is?

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Especially when there's like, there's you, me and Nik.

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And it's a case of, get in, have a look

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and grab something before one of you two does.

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It was a bit like Supermarket Sweep with Dale Winton.

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It was.

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And also as well, trying to get three gays

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out of shops to keep on time was impossible.

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We planned to do so many different shops yesterday and do different things.

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And we ended up having to cut it short yet again

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because we had to get home to walk our dog.

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We couldn't leave him in.

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And yeah, we were just spending way too long in the shops.

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Yeah. But we did well.

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We got a good haul.

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We went to the Adidas outlet and we got some absolute bargains.

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You say Adidas, I say Adidas the way it should be said.

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Our Adidas haul was so good.

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I cannot believe what we got for just short of 96€.

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Yeah. Three pairs of trainers.

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Really good trainers as well, like the

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Adidas Boosts, and they’re really nice shoes.

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What else did we get?

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A pair of shorts.

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A really nice pair of shorts, actually.

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They're quite revealing.

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I need thicker pants, I think.

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So, we got those.

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I got a nice baseball cap.

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You did!

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And it all came to like 96€.

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each pair of those shoes, if they

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were full price, they would have been over 100€ each.

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you need to go up north to Las Terrazas and El Mirador.

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My favourite is Las Terrazas because that's where the

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outlets are, but also it allows dogs in.

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And there was loads of dogs yesterday.

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It's very dog friendly.

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They've got a gym there and so there's some very handsome, beefy

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Spanish men always kind of walking through to and from the gym.

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you said that, I remembered those two that we saw yesterday.

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Dogs and handsome men.

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Las Terrazas is where to be! And bargains!

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What more could you want?

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And then El Mirador is more like a traditional shopping centre.

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Anybody from the Glasgow area or surrounding area will know Braehead.

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That's basically what El Mirador is like and there's my favourite shop

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in there called Lefties and I think it's coming to the UK.

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They are opening, I think they're opening four stores in the UK and I

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think it's in England to start off with and then they'll probably branch out.

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But this shop is humongous and it's so cool because you

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go and try things on and normally when you try things

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on, you maybe only want a couple of them.

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assistant, but they've actually got a hole in the wall in the

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changing room and there's a conveyor belt and you just put the

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stuff on the conveyor belt that you don't want.

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Yeah, it's like a large glory hole.

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You just deposit your unwanted items.

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Yeah. It's pretty cool.

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Yeah, Lefties is good.

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It's owned by the same group as Zara, but it's cheaper.

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It's a bit better.

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The homeware section is really good.

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There's some nice stuff in there.

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I know. We didn't have time to look yesterday, so once we move into our new

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place, we'll take a wee trip again there and get some new homeware stuff.

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Yes, definitely.

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And one of the reasons that we were

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going shopping yesterday was because...

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You're leaving me!

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Well, I'm not leaving you.

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I'm just going away for the weekend with Nik.

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I know.

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I'm maybe just being a bit dramatic there, but yeah, you have decided when

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you went out with Nik for a few drinks in the sun a few

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weeks ago, you concocted a plan to go on holiday together with me.

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Not quite.
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- Nik was already going.
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Because it's Dean's birthday, another friend of ours that lives here.

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And it just so happens to be Sitges Pride that weekend as well.

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So it's all came together quite nicely.

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all day yesterday, Nik and I were like, oh, that's my wee Sitges outfit.

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Oh, that'll look great in Sitges.

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Yeah, it all came together nicely.

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That'll be the only thing that's coming together in Sitges.

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You go and have fun.

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I am going to be left alone, walking the dog, doing all the mundane things.

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And playing my PlayStation because I am a gaymer.

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There you go. You'll be playing with your joystick and I'll be playing with mine.

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On your own.

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On your own!

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So, yeah.

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And also the weekend that you're away.

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So that's like the 13th, 14th of June.

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Something like that, yeah.

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There is a big night in the Yumbo Centre.

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So, obviously, we live in Gran Canaria, in Maspalomas.

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And there is a big night in the Yumbo Centre, a big tourism festival.

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And they have got Cascada headlining.

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So, I'm going to be down there.

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You're going to miss that.

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Oh, well.

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That's fine.

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I'm going to be in Sitges.

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Enjoying Pride.

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That better be all you're in.

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We joke.

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No. I’m actually being serious.

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And what else is happening in June in Gran Canaria?

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The Pope.

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The Pope! Oh, yeah.

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Forgot about that.

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So, the Pope is visiting just before that.

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I think he's here on the 11th of June.

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So, obviously, like, Spain's very, very, very Catholic.

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And I think everything's going to come to a standstill when he's here.

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It's going to be crazy.

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And the reason I said the Pope is because of Snatch Game from

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the most recent RuPaul's Drag Race season, where Discord Adams plays the Pope.

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Brilliant.

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No, she plays the Pope.

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The Pope!

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That was a good segue, actually.

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We didn't even plan that.

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Drag Race US season 18 finished this weekend.

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And it was a good finale.

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You were going to say yesterday there because we watched it yesterday.

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Yes. But before we talk about the finale, let's

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talk about that RuPaulapalooza from the week before.

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You haven't stopped talking about it because you thought it was amazing.

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So apologies to anybody who is not a Drag Race

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fan, but if you're not, why are you listening?

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Fast forward.

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Skip to the next bit.

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If you are a fan, however, if you watched

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that RuPaulapalooza, oh my God, it was amazing.

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That was so good.

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And Juicy Love Dion... The headstand?

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Oh, that's all I'm going to say.

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That was amazing.

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Iconic!

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I-con-i-ca!

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Brilliant.

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It was really good because before we watched it, I

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said to you, I actually don't enjoy these because I

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find them really boring, but that one was brilliant.

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It was, yeah, it was one of the best that I've watched.

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And she deserved, I was just about to say something there, but

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spoiler, if you haven't watched it, yeah, she deserved to win it.

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There will be spoilers for Drag Race season 18.

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So again, if you haven't watched it yet, feel free to skip this section.

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The chapters are all listed in the show notes

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so you know what time to skip ahead to.

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So yeah, Juicy Love Dion slayed it and

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she absolutely deserved to win that $50,000.

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She did and I think, I feel like they've

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been throwing money at all the queens this season.

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Like when we watched the finale yesterday, it just seemed

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like, you get dollars, you get dollars, everybody gets dollars.

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I know!

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Like Drag Race has got so big and it's just

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like, it's got so much money now, it's crazy.

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What I wish they would do though, instead of throwing all of this money

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out, I wish they would give the queens a stipend at the start.

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Because so many of them get into like really serious debt

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to put together all of their outfits, all of their costumes.

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And then if you get eliminated in the first few weeks,

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I mean, it's not a good return on your investment.

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So I think what they really should do is give

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them all a stipend of maybe like $3000, $4000.

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To be fair though, $3000, $4000 isn't going to go

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that far for some of the outfits that they do.

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I know, true.

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But the more creative queens, I think it'll really help them shine.

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But anyway, that's enough about politics.

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No, we're going to talk about that soon.

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Yeah. Let's talk about the Drag Race finale first.

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Yes, the finale was brilliant.

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We liked all three of the top three.

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I was undecided who I wanted to win.

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yeah, I want the person that won to win.

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Are we doing spoilers?

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Yeah, we announced it that there would be spoilers.

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Myki Meeks!

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Yeah.

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Myki Meeks was a very worthy winner.

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Nini Coco was fierce.

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Like, I think out of the three of them, Nini

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Coco had the worst odds going into the finale.

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But she really turned it out in the finale, I think.

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Yeah, and Darlene Mitchell is...

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The nation's sweetheart.

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But runner up, basically.

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But she never, ever had to lip-sync during the whole season.

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She's the first queen ever to never have to

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lip-sync in 18 seasons, which is quite something.

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Yeah.

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She's good as well.

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She's very good.

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We like Darlene.

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She's her own thing.

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She's very unique, which we like.

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- So that's Drag Race finished.
- Yeah.

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- Yay, sports!
- Yay!

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[chuckles]

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That's our World Cup.

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Apparently, there's some other kind of a

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World Cup happening soon, don't know?

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I don't know.

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Nik was being very butch in the

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Adidas shop yesterday, trying on football tops.

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And I need to speak about this because the

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three of us were being the gayest ever.

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We were just going, oh, look at that one, look at that one.

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Not a fucking clue what team it was or what country it was.

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We just liked the colours.

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It was so funny.

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And there were like big straight guys in, buying

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their football tops ahead of the World Cup.

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And we were just in going, oh, look at this one.

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- It's pink.
- I quite liked that pink one.

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Apparently it was Germany.

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I like the Spain one, the red with the yellow trim.

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Very, very nice.

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Yeah. I like that.

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I would get that.

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But then I'm afraid that people will come up and just assume that I'm

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Spanish and start speaking to me very fast in Spanish and won't understand them.

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About football, which is even worse.

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Oh, God.

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Can you imagine?

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I know.

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But what did you say to me yesterday in the shop?

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Kind of want to get the Spain tops and then we

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can go to like Spanish bars and watch the football.

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And then whenever everybody's cheering when Spain win a

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goal, we can celebrate with all the straight boys.

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Big hugs and cheers and all that.

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That'd be fun.

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That would be fun.
[laughter]

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That'd be hot.

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Yay, sports!
[laughter]

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And I guess we should mention the other massive

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LGBTQ+ news that Madonna is making a comeback.

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Yeah, she has been resurrected.

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I'm not the biggest fan of Madonna.

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I enjoy her music.

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Great.

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But I'm just not the biggest fan of her.

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So, again, I think I might need to hand back my gay card

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because, like, Nik actually audibly gasped yesterday when I told him that.

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He's super excited for her coming back.

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So, I am not a huge Madonna fan.

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I think I was born just a little too late.

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I'm a Kylie boy.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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Did you just throw shade at Nik?

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Say that he's old?

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No, he is older than me.

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I mean, I think anybody maybe like three, four, five

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years older than me would probably be the Madonna generation

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of gays, whereas I am the Kylie generation of gays.

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And then after me came the Britney generation of gays.

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So, yeah, I've never been a huge Madonna fan, but

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what I will say is her songs are iconic.

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Confessions on a Dance Floor, such a banger.

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And the track that they have released from this new album is quite good.

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It's not, I don't consider it a single.

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It's more of a set up for the album.

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And if it's anything to go by, I mean, yeah,

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I'm really looking forward to listening to the new album.

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When she released the first album, I was living here for the first time in

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my early 20s, being a little terrace tart.

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And just a tart in general.

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[laughs]

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So it's quite funny that now I'm living here again.

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She's releasing it, or part two.

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Yeah.

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Do you think she did that on purpose?

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- Aye.
- For you?

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Aye, she did, aye.

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Okay.

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[laughter]

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The word revolves around Alan.

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Don't you forget it.

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Right.

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That's enough about pop culture.

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We did mention that we were going to get back to politics.

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So what we want to briefly discuss is some news from the

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last week or two from the UK, and it is one of

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our favourite people ever, that little toad of Toad Hall, Nigel Farage.

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You say that, I say cunt, Nigel Farage.

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[laughter]

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But before I go into this, can I just say

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that one of my favourite pastimes recently is blocking gays

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on Instagram that support Reform and Nigel Farage.

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Go do it.

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It's really cathartic.

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Yeah.

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Like, I mean, if you are a member of the rainbow family and you are

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thinking about supporting Reform or you do support Reform, give your head a shake.

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They are not our friends.

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They are our enemy.

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You only need to look at what's happened in America to see what's

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happening because Reform are basically just trying to copy everything Trump has done

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and there is so much buyer's remorse from people who supported Donald Trump

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believing his false promises and they are cursing it now.

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Look at Caitlyn Jenner.

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The leopards have eaten her face because she cannot get a passport

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with her gender marker on it and cannot travel safely now.

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Hell mend her!

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Right, let's talk about Nigel Farage.

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So we came across an article: HIV charities criticise Nigel

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Farage after Reform UK leader called for asylum seekers to

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be banned from receiving HIV treatment on the NHS.

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Like, where do you even start with this?

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It's just...

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I think the best place to start is by calling Nigel Farage a cunt again.

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Yes, I think so.

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I think so.

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So let me read this article from Scene magazine.

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So, HIV charities Terence Higgins Trust and National AIDS Trust have

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criticised comments made by Nigel Farage on the 13th of April.

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The Reform UK leader said he would ban asylum

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seekers with HIV from receiving treatment on the NHS.

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Now, why do you want to be part of

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the problem rather than part of the solution?

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Yeah, let's give an example.

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Back when the COVID vaccine rollout was happening so that we could

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start getting back to some sense of normality after all of the

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lockdowns, would anybody have suggested for a second that asylum seekers or

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any other population should have been excluded from the vaccine rollout?

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No, because we understood that herd immunity was

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what was going to move us forward.

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And likewise, if we do, if we're serious about stopping transmission of HIV

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completely, the way to do that is to make sure as many people

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as possible, 100% if we can, of people living with HIV are undetectable.

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And the only way they can do that is through treatment.

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Absolutely.

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There's a target by 2030 and it's a

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cross-party effort to end new HIV cases.

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So, what's he playing at?

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It's shocking that he is excluding one section of the

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population and it's just because he's a blatant racist.

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He should be supporting this to end HIV transmission.

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Yeah, in terms of public health, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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It is just another dog whistle so that it can be run

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in the Daily Mail, the Daily Express, to get people angry that

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asylum seekers are freeloaders and getting handouts, which is not the case.

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This is a public health matter.

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It's to stop transmission and it's to deal with this virus.

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I mean, great leaps and bounds have been made.

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We're really getting there.

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There's still a lot of work to do, particularly

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around the issue of stigma related to HIV.

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But, like, Nigel Farage making these statements, it's really ignorant.

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It's really crass.

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It makes no sense.

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And it's just going to make public health worse.

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That's my rant over!

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[laughter]

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So, yeah, I think circling back to what we said at the start, I mean,

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there are so many, many reasons to not support Nigel Farage, to not support Reform,

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and to not get swept up in the whole idea of this populist movement.

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But there is just one very simple example that we can give.

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He's using asylum seekers as some sort of dog whistle.

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And there is also an implication in there, you know, he's using

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HIV because it is, for many of these people that he's trying

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to target with this rhetoric, many of those people will still have

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it in their head that this is a gay disease.

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You know, all of that horrible messaging from the

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80s and 90s is still stuck in their brains.

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And there is, that it's almost implied.

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So it's a double whammy for Farage.

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He gets to attack asylum seekers and the gays.

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Yeah.

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And the thing is, studies have shown that actually

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it's heterosexual people that are the biggest... transmitters?

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Yeah, it's the most cases are now

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transmitted in heterosexual people, between heterosexual people.

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Yeah. But again, it's just going back to the 80s and all

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that horrendous advertising about AIDS when it first was discovered.

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So, yes, we're not fans of Reform or Nigel Farage.

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And if anybody's listening to the podcast that is

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fans of Nigel Farage or Reform, kindly fuck off.

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[laughter]

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Please just, I mean, please just look a bit more into their policies

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because so many people have buyer's remorse in America for supporting Trump.

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And if, should Farage get into power in the UK, the same thing

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is going to happen, you know, a year, two years down the line.

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So many people are going to regret their vote, just as so many people

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have done with Keir Starmer because he has let so many people down.

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He's let so many people in the LGBT community

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down since he got into power as well.

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And yes, people are frustrated.

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They're feeling disenfranchised.

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But...

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Snake oil salesmen like Farage are not the answer.

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Right. Shall we move on to the fitness section?

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Yeah, let's do it.

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Just before we get into the fitness section, remember that we

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offer online coaching specifically for gay, bi and trans guys.

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So stay tuned after this section for details on how you

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can book in for a free discovery call with us.

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So this is something that absolutely made my blood boil during

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the week, but we have found the worst PT ever.

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Now, we don't actually know who the person is.

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We've found someone's TikTok talking about their experience and

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they have labelled it as the worst PT ever.

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And once we tell you what this PT did to this woman, I think you'll agree.

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So yeah, obviously this podcast is largely

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for gay, bi, and trans guys, okay?

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Now, this TikTok video that we found, probably making an

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assumption here, but I think she's a cisgender woman who

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had a shit PT and she is recounting her story.

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So we're going to go through her TikTok video just now and bitch

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about the points that she makes because we 100% agree with her.

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Absolutely flabbergasted.

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Right, should we take these one by one then, Alan?

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Yes, because I have a lot to say.

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Well, so does she, so let's hear it in her own words.

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First one, don't have butter on your

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toast because it's a waste of calories.

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He was literally like, there is no point in having butter.

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Don't, if you're, I wouldn't even have toast, but

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if you're going to, definitely don't have butter.

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Honest to God!

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I mean, he said to her, I wouldn't even have toast, but

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if you have to have toast, don't have butter on it.

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What the actual..?

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What is she just going to have dry toast?!

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For fuck's sake!

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So, yeah, let's just, let's rewind.

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So, first of all, the butter thing.

510
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,000
See if you want to have butter, just have butter.

511
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,760
Yeah.

512
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:40,840
If you are tracking your calories, put it into whatever tracking app that

513
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,720
you're using, enjoy the butter, and just move on with your day.

514
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,680
I think we should qualify this for anybody who is

515
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,720
maybe listening for the first time who doesn't know.

516
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,440
So, we run Outlifting, which is an online fitness business.

517
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,240
We help to coach gay, bi, and trans guys with

518
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,120
nutrition coaching, accountability coaching, workout plans, all of that.

519
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,880
A lot of the work that we do breaks down the

520
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,960
toxicity that exists in certain corners of the fitness industry.

521
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,000
And that's very much what we're talking about here.

522
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,440
This is toxic nutrition advice.

523
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,600
Absolute bullshit.

524
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,600
It is.

525
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,240
That's what it is.

526
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,080
But yeah, you're absolutely right.

527
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,440
And I am, like, shocked at some of the things

528
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,480
that I hear from people around this sort of stuff.

529
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,360
I'm going to give an example.

530
00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:27,680
So, last night, what did we have for dinner?

531
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,680
We had a beige dinner.

532
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,520
So-called, because everything was beige.

533
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:31,960
Yeah.

534
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,840
It was frozen pizza, chips.

535
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,360
It was...

536
00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:37,960
- Tequenos.
- Tequenos!

537
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,680
Nuggets.

538
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,520
Soya nuggets, yeah.

539
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,840
So, we made sure that there was protein in there with the

540
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,520
soya nuggets, but it was not a nutritious and healthy meal.

541
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,200
Do we eat like that all the time?

542
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,400
No, we do not.

543
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,120
We'd been out all day.

544
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:54,720
We had to rush back, get Haggis our dog out a walk.

545
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080
And I was like, I cannot be fucked making dinner.

546
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,520
So, we made an executive decision to have a beige dinner.

547
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,720
Now, we had it.

548
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,880
We moved on with our night.

549
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,160
- Brilliant.
- Yeah!

550
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,920
But it's not the end of the world, you know.

551
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,600
See if you're having stuff like this every once in a while.

552
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,480
Great.

553
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,880
If you're trying to change your body composition, lose weight, whatever

554
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,480
it might be, and you're having that every night, then yeah,

555
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,480
there needs to be a change to your lifestyle.

556
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,480
Yeah, absolutely.

557
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,240
Everything in moderation.

558
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,320
Quite a lot of the coaching work that

559
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,920
we do with clients coaches the 80-20 rule.

560
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,480
So long as at least 80% of the time you're eating a

561
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,400
balanced diet, quote unquote healthy food, fruits, vegetables, all that kind of

562
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,360
stuff, that other 20% you can be a bit more indulgent with.

563
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:42,120
And if you are hopefully tracking your calories, making sure that you're

564
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:46,960
not overeating, making sure that your macronutrient balance is right, there's not

565
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,920
really an issue because life is for living and enjoying.

566
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,760
Can I just say though, see butter, that's definitely not in that 20%.

567
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,360
[laughs]

568
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,200
Stick that in your 80%.

569
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,800
It's absolutely fine to have.

570
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,800
So yeah, let's move on to the next one

571
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480
because I'm pure boiling with rage right now.

572
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,360
Next up, he told me at least I lost weight when talking about when I

573
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:13,320
was ill and I wasn't eating and I lost like 4kg in about 5 days.

574
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,600
Right...

575
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,400
[laughs]

576
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:21,120
So this would be the first instance where I am sensing the misogyny.

577
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:22,840
Yes, absolutely.

578
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,360
Absolutely.

579
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:24,920
And there's more of it to come.

580
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:31,000
But to lose 4kg in 5 days is unbelievable.

581
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560
That is not healthy weight loss.

582
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,320
Obviously, because this person was ill.

583
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,400
And to say, well, at least you lost weight because you were ill.

584
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,320
My God.

585
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,120
I know.

586
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:42,960
Crazy.

587
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,640
No sympathy.

588
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,720
No understanding about being ill.

589
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,080
It's just like, oh, at least you lost some weight.

590
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,120
Awful. Awful!

591
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,440
This person is meant to be a coach.

592
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,920
And for me very much, a coach is

593
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,080
somebody who encourages, who helps, who inspires.

594
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,640
That is not inspiring whatsoever.

595
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,160
That is not encouraging.

596
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,880
That really is just going to make somebody who is recovering from

597
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:13,200
illness and is already feeling pretty bad, even worse about themselves.

598
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,080
Yeah.
[laughs]

599
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,120
And that's the tea.

600
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,080
Okay, next one.

601
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,880
Only eat Eatlean cheese.

602
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,240
Now, I don't necessarily have anything against Eatlean cheese.

603
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,240
I think it has its moments melted.

604
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,920
I think it's actually okay.

605
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,960
However, this was like properly demonizing any other kind of cheese.

606
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240
This is kind of back to the butter thing.

607
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000
Yeah, no food should ever be demonized.

608
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,560
You should never feel guilty for eating any

609
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,080
kind of food, no matter what it is.

610
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,360
Now, like she said there, reduced fat cheese will have its place.

611
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,840
If you are on, you know, a certain amount of macros and you

612
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,800
are watching those macros, then you're just being smart about what you're consuming

613
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,920
to be able to meet like your fat macros, for example.

614
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,520
But you should never eat that because it's demonized.

615
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,640
Just if you want to have something, then have it.

616
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,440
Exactly.

617
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,880
And if you have specific goals that you're trying to meet

618
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,280
with your nutrition, so long as you are tracking your nutrition

619
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,960
and you're tracking your macronutrients, you're going to succeed if you're

620
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,080
tracking and you're managing to hit your targets.

621
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,280
So long as it fits within your macronutrients and your calories, who cares?

622
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,240
And that's the tea.

623
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,120
And that's the cheese.

624
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Hang on.

625
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,920
Right, so next one.

626
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:34,520
When we used to do check-in pictures, he would circle in red

627
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,600
what I needed to change and circle in green what was good.

628
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,200
Good was like my glutes or something like that.

629
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,440
And red was cellulite.

630
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,160
Any kind of fats, any like, if I was wearing like

631
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,320
tight pants and like I had like a little bit of

632
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,480
fat hanging over or anything like that, circled in red.

633
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,160
Any cellulite, circled in red.

634
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,040
Hip dips, circled in red.

635
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,640
Yet again, you would not do that with any client, but

636
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:09,200
there is just such an obvious point here to make that a

637
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,160
man doing that to a woman is just so wrong.

638
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,360
And again, reeks of misogyny.

639
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,560
I'm so angry, I can't even speak.

640
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,880
Honestly, what gives him the right to do something like that?

641
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,920
And circling it and pointing out these areas and

642
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,160
saying, this is what you need to change.

643
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,200
Hang on a minute.

644
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,120
She is paying you money to guide and support and coach her.

645
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,520
Like, honestly, I'm speechless.

646
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,480
The way that we coach is totally different

647
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,600
because it's not about just this end goal.

648
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,760
It's about learning to love yourself at every stage.

649
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,400
It's about celebrating every win.

650
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,320
Pointing out to somebody what you perceive as flaws on their body makes

651
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,960
them focus on those things rather than the achievements that they have made.

652
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Perhaps that week that he did that, she

653
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,200
had increased her weights in the gym.

654
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,280
She was lifting heavier.

655
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Her fitness was, you know, improving.

656
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,640
Maybe she had some real wins there.

657
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,040
And by doing what he did, he totally detracted from those.

658
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,000
And again, this comes back to coaching style.

659
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,280
You should inspire and motivate and encourage.

660
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,160
He is doing the opposite.

661
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Yeah, he's the worst PT ever, as we said.

662
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,880
- He is a shit PT.
[laughter]

663
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,680
But yeah, love yourself.

664
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,320
I'm turning into RuPaul here.

665
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,360
Love yourself at every stage of your journey.

666
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:39,920
It is about learning to embrace where you're at and embrace your

667
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,680
wins and embrace all of the small changes that you're making.

668
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,240
That doesn't mean that you just pretend that you're happy with everything.

669
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,400
This change doesn't come overnight.

670
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,360
It's an incremental process and it is a daily practice.

671
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,880
See this next one.

672
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,920
I just can't believe this happened.

673
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,560
Next up, he walked me around an entire Sainsbury's

674
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,120
pointing out every single food I shouldn't have.

675
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,960
Like every single aisle.

676
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,160
Every single aisle pointing out all the foods I couldn't have.

677
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,720
She actually wrote in her note on this that she was

678
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,680
in the Sainsbury's for hours with him while he did this.

679
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Why?

680
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Why would you walk somewhere around the supermarket

681
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,360
telling them foods that they can't have?

682
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,320
Again, you're demonising foods.

683
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,280
This woman, what is her relationship with foods?

684
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,760
Because if it was okay before or it was a good relationship, I

685
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,160
tell you what, it was not going to be after that experience.

686
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,360
Yeah.

687
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,600
So, I mean, we're not going to go into massive depth

688
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680
here about this because this is an entirely different subject.

689
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,720
But we all know that there are serious issues with eating disorders.

690
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,040
And coaching, the way this guy coaches, he is

691
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,840
going to give people eating disorders with this nonsense

692
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,760
that he's preaching and the methods that he's using.

693
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,480
Imagine the stress you'd be under the next time that you go

694
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,320
into the supermarket and be like, is this something I can have?

695
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,160
Can I not have this?

696
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,720
Like, is this going to spoil my goals?

697
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,240
Like, your mind would just be absolutely frazzled.

698
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,800
Absolutely.

699
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,840
And I'm pretty sure that that PT, if he saw the dinner that we

700
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,240
had last night, he would, you know, he would blow his top because basically

701
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,800
everything that was on our plate would have been on his ban list.

702
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,640
And you know what?

703
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880
It's something that we do very rarely.

704
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,720
Maybe every two months or so, we might have a dinner like that.

705
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280
Most of the time, everything is homemade.

706
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,640
But we wouldn't demonize it.

707
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,000
And we're guilty of having food like that sometimes.

708
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,200
And do you know what?

709
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,800
I can't even believe I just used the word guilty

710
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,320
because there should be no guilt attached to it whatsoever.

711
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,600
I would love for him to know that we're

712
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,440
PTs and we'd eaten that kind of food.

713
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,000
Could you imagine his response then?

714
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,680
I know.

715
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,800
Honestly, it's just so toxic.

716
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Yeah, there are certain foods that you don't want to eat all the time.

717
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
You don't want to eat every day.

718
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,800
But to actually parade somebody through a

719
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,000
supermarket and say, yes, no, yes, no.

720
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,200
That is horrific.

721
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,320
Crazy!

722
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,160
I'm getting small dick energy from this guy.

723
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,680
Yes, absolutely.

724
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,000
Absolutely.

725
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Okay, we've got one last one and this is an absolute doozy.

726
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080
And lastly, I think I had like a meal out with friends.

727
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,240
I think it was even a birthday meal and he pointed at

728
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,560
me the next day, pointing out my stomach, quite frankly, like prodding

729
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,680
my stomach, saying, yeah, that's fat you gained from that meal.

730
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,320
Talk to me.

731
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,560
I can't.

732
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,800
I actually can't.

733
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,600
This woman went out for her birthday and then the next day

734
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,000
obviously had a PT session and he was prodding her belly saying

735
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,920
the food you ate last night has made you fat.

736
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,440
First of all, you don't understand science because

737
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,440
that wouldn't happen as quickly as that.

738
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Second of all, that just wouldn't happen.

739
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,840
If this guy was her boyfriend and not her PT

740
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,320
what we would be saying is

741
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,120
that he is controlling, coercive and abusive.

742
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Why would you accept that sort of

743
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760
language and behaviour from someone like that?

744
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,800
You wouldn't accept it from your partner, so why?

745
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920
I'm not saying she obviously didn't accept it,

746
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,640
so why does he think it's acceptable?

747
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,400
In the video, she says that she has blocked him on all platforms.

748
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,280
She has cut him out.

749
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,720
More power to her.

750
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,920
She's brilliant.

751
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240
I kind of wish she had have named and shamed as well.

752
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,120
I understand why she didn't, but this guy could

753
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,080
be doing this to other people as well now.

754
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,680
And it's so bad.

755
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,760
It's so unethical.

756
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,400
It's so unprofessional that he is taking money

757
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,560
from people to treat them like absolute shit.

758
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,960
And he probably thinks he's an amazing PT for doing

759
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,160
all this, but he clearly is very insecure about himself

760
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,240
and doesn't have a clue about what he's doing.

761
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,040
I'm assuming.

762
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:57,760
Yeah.

763
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,920
Obviously, all of the toxicity that we try to break down in the fitness

764
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,480
industry, a lot of it is exemplified by what we've been talking about today.

765
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,720
And I think the reason that we do talk about this stuff as

766
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well is because we want to be very open and we want to

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allow listeners to feel that they can give themselves permission to not beat

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themselves up, to not have this toxic dialogue in their head, and to

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recognise when they see this information online, in their feed, in their algorithms,

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that they can spot it and empower themselves to swipe away or to

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block or whatever else because it is crap advice.

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Yeah, there's so much crap out there.

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And we speak to clients about you don't need to be perfect.

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You just need to be consistent.

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And unfortunately, a lot of the time, the message that is out

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on social media is that you need to be absolutely perfect at

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nutrition and training and everything else that goes along with it.

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And you don't.

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You just need to be consistent and enjoy what you're doing.

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I think that's most important.

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Yeah.

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Have we ranted enough?

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I think we have ranted enough.

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Okay. I think that is good that I feel that that was cathartic.

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I have vented and I am ready to wrap up the show.

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Let's do it.

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Okay.

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If you feel that you do need some help

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with your fitness, that's what we're here for.

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So we run Outlifting, which is an online fitness business

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aimed at helping gay, bi and trans guys work on

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their fitness, work on their bodies and build unstoppable confidence.

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We are the complete opposite

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of that shit PT that we just talked about.

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Our coaching style is much different.

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We break down the toxicity.

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We work with you.

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We offer a really bespoke one-on-one support package that

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includes weekly video calls, that includes daily chats.

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We are there for you to hold your hand every step of the way.

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If you feel that you could benefit from what we

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offer and you would like to chat with us in

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a no-pressure environment, we offer free, no-obligation discovery video chats.

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To book one of those, just click the link in the show notes

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and you can select the date and time that is best for you.

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You can meet with one of us and you can take some time to figure

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out whether we are the right fit for you to help you meet your goals.

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So please click the link, book in, we would love to chat with you.

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And if you love the show, why don't you take some time out and

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consider giving us a five-star rating on the streaming platform you listen to us?

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That's us for this week.

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We will have a new show next week.

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Make sure you're subscribed on your podcast platform

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of choice to keep up with the conversation.

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But for now, over and Outlifting.

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