Hello and welcome to episode
20 of The Outlifting Lounge.
This is the show all about
pride, fitness, and everything in between.
I'm Alan.
And I'm Derec.
In today's show, we will be having a little
bit of a moan about something the BBC has
done quite badly this week, but we will praise
something they have done really well as well.
We will also be calling out
some absolute bull**** from Pink News.
And in the fitness section of the show later
on, we will be discussing why a severe calorie
deficit is never the way to go.
Stay tuned.
Let's get started.
So before we begin, Alan, we really should apologise
again for the fact that there was no show
last week, and I will let you do the
apologies because it was your fault.
It was my fault.
Unfortunately, I had man flu.
It was a rough week.
It was a rough week for me.
You were very good at looking after me.
We almost got a bell in so I could just
like ring the bell for you to bring me stuff.
But you did really well.
Luckily, we didn't have our dog Haggis because
my dad's over visiting and he has been
spending all his time with my dad.
So there was a little bit
of pressure off that way.
But he did really well looking after me.
It's like you're my husband or something.
Yeah, I was like Florence Nightingale.
But a wee bit sexier.
Thanks.
We should also point out that anybody
who is watching will see straight away
that we have got new microphones.
New appendages.
And hopefully anybody who's listening in can
hear the difference this week because these
microphones should hopefully be a little better.
Yeah, I mean, it only took us five days
to set them up and get them working.
So hopefully this is going to go all okay.
Yeah, this could actually be a catastrophe
in the making, but hopefully not.
Fingers crossed.
We will see how this turns out.
I'm scared to move in case I hit it.
I'm like, I'm so rigid right now.
I know.
And not in a good way.
Not in the way I like.
Yeah, so new mics, new man.
Let's go.
Let's do it.
So before we go into the fitness section, we
want to touch on a little bit of pop
culture and some LGBT news very quickly.
And the pop culture news we wanted to
talk about this week is the BBC.
The British Broadcasting Corporation?
Is there any other BBC?
No comment...
Yes, the British Broadcasting
Corporation, of course.
Okay, yeah, we're loving them and we're disappointed
in them, both in the same week.
Yeah, the BBC is in our good
books and our bad books this week.
Let's start off with the bad.
Okay, so they have cancelled I Kissed A Boy
and I Kissed A Girl, the only LGBTQIA+
dating show that's on TV at the moment.
And their excuse for it is funding... Okay!
Yeah, but they can afford to pay their
big stars, multi-million pound deals, but they can't
find funding for something that's actually really needed.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a load of rubbish
and it's really, really disappointing.
There's so many straight dating shows, Love
Island, MAFS, Love is Blind, all that
crap, although we do watch MAFS.
And they have gay couples on the show,
but I feel like it's more of a token.
Oh, totally.
You know, so yeah, it's very
annoying that it's been cancelled.
Yeah, so BBC needs to get their act together.
It is really super disappointing
that this has happened.
It's more, it's about representation as well.
You know, when we were growing up, we didn't
have an awful lot of queer TV to watch.
We had Queer As Folk, which was a
revelation for us, but there wasn't a lot.
And it's brilliant that shows like I Kissed A
Boy and I Kissed A Girl came along.
Are there issues with the show that need tweaked?
Possibly.
I mean, the last season maybe could have had
a little more diversity in the casting, but that
is no reason to cancel it whatsoever.
And to cancel it on funding rounds for
the BBC is just really crass as well,
because they should be there for absolutely everybody
and everybody should be represented and have shows.
Yeah, they're basically just saying that, oh,
you're not worth the funding that we
want to give you for this.
Right. Yeah, it's really, really bad.
But what have the BBC done quite well
this week from an LGBT point of view?
Well, Drag Race, they had the Olymp...
Oh, I don't like talking about Drag Race.
No, you don't.
I love it.
It's been a couple of weeks, so I
guess we better talk about it again.
Drag Race had the makeover.
Spoiler alerts, by the way.
Drag Race had the makeover challenge this
week on UK Versus The World, and
they had the UK Olympians on.
And some of them were straight, and some
of them were part of our rainbow family.
Yes.
So let's start off with the rainbow family.
So there was Shanaze, the BMXer, who had a
really, really amazing story and an amazing background.
So she was competing at the
highest level possible, an Olympian level.
She had an injury, she couldn't do it anymore, and
then she became an alcoholic because of that, because she
just didn't have any purpose in her life.
It was suddenly taken away from her.
Yeah, she was very open about it when
she was asked, oh, what did you do
after you stopped, you know, competing?
And she just said, I became an alcoholic.
Yeah.
She was so open about it.
And I can understand why that could potentially
happen, because your focus is so much on
your sport and what you're doing.
And then all of a sudden
that's taken away from you.
It's pretty amazing.
She is a phenomenal role model because of that.
It's so good that she has turned that
into her strength and her power moving forward.
And she uses her platform now to
talk to people and to help them.
Because that's essentially using that show for
that purpose is going to help at
least one person out there.
Hopefully many, many more.
Yeah. But yeah, it's so easy to do that.
When people feel that their sense of purpose has been
taken away from them, you know, it's so easy to
fall into a pit of despair and to turn to
substances, whether it be alcohol or something else.
So, yeah, I thought that was really amazing
that she was there spreading that message.
Yes. And of course, there's Dan Jarvis.
He was very open about his coming out story.
He's a devout Christian.
And he was really open about
how welcoming his church was.
And he grew up in a
really, really small Welsh town.
So it was nice to see and hear about his story.
Yeah, no, it really, really was.
And again, that will really help somebody out
there, hopefully quite a lot of people.
Because there was a lot of people in that
situation where they are in a very Christian background.
Some people like Dan were fortunate that
they were accepted and they had support.
Other people not so much, because you
hear these horror stories about conversion therapy.
And a lot of that
comes from a religious background.
So yeah, really super important to have him on TV
as well as a super positive role model for people.
It just, like, I love the makeover challenge
in Drag Race anyway, but that made it
so much more special, I think.
Yep, it was a really great episode.
And of course, Greg Rutherford was on it as well.
And he's such a big ally,
I actually thought he was gay.
You were like, no, he's not.
I'm like, I'm sure he is.
He's done loads of different stuff in the
past, like covers of Attitude magazine, for example.
But it turns out he's just a really,
really nice guy and a great ally.
He is another in the vein
of Ben Cohen and Joe Marler.
Just these super confident guys who are
really comfortable with their own sexuality.
There is no toxic masculinity about them.
And they're just, they're just amazing guys.
They really are.
And they have no qualms about going and getting
dressed up in drag and walking about in heels.
They don't care what anybody thinks of
them because they don't need to.
They've got the confidence.
They know who they are.
They're comfortable in their own skin.
It's amazing.
Yeah. And he looked good in drag as well.
Just like Joe Marler.
Yeah, but they've done so well.
I think, I think part of the reason
that he looks so good in drag is
because of that confidence that shines through.
There was no holding back for him.
You know, he was out there and he didn't care.
We love that.
We love a strong, positive, straight ally.
Absolutely.
It was a really good episode.
So if you haven't watched it
yet, definitely go and watch it.
Yeah.
And I'm going to say something that
you're going to be happy about.
There's no more Drag Race.
That's enough Drag Race for now.
Let's move on to the news section.
Yay.
So the news story that we wanted to talk about
this week is something that appeared in Pink News.
So that's LGBTQIA+ press, supposedly.
And I think the headline was, Reform
UK are the most supported party among
gay and bi men, new poll shows.
And we wanted to include this because
we want to hit the bull**** button.
It's not true.
Yeah, absolute bull****.
So they had a survey among straight, bi
and LGBTQ+ men and women actually.
And the sample size that they used within the
survey for our community was about 300, which is
just not a big enough sample size.
No. A sample size of anything lower than
a thousand people is not representative.
You can't use that data.
It's absolute trash.
What this boils down to, when you see this
headline that it's like Reform UK are supposedly the
most supported party, what that boils down to is
60 people told them, 60 gay or bi men
told them that they would consider voting Reform.
That is not representative of the UK population.
That is something that you would
probably hear on Family Fortunes.
Our survey said...
Sixty!
You know, it's crap.
It's absolute trash.
It's a load of rubbish.
And especially with all the stuff that Reform have
been coming out with recently about they would get
rid of the Equality Act, you know, like, I
would hope that our community can see through all
the crap that they talk about and, you know,
give them an absolute wide berth.
But polls like this and Pink News,
who should know better, should not be
putting this information out there.
Shame on the BBC for cancelling I Kissed
A Boy / Girl and shame on Pink
News for posting this absolute nonsense without doing
even the slightest bit of fact checking whatsoever.
It is absolute nonsense.
And to, you know, as you said, you've
touched on the stuff that Reform have done.
It's not that long ago, and we're
talking months, since Nigel Farage said that
children should be brought up in a
household with a mother and a father.
Like, we're paying attention, or
we should be paying attention.
Reform are not our friends.
No.
And they will pretend to be.
And then as soon as they get a whiff of
power, they will do everything that Trump is doing.
So, same-sex marriage will come under threat.
Trans rights will massively come
even under more threat.
They are not our friends.
Stay away, is what we would say.
Do not vote for them.
If you are considering voting for them, give
your head a wobble, do some research, please.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So, yeah, have we talked enough?
Have we ranted enough?
Can we move on to the fitness section?
I think so, yeah.
Let's do the fitness.
Welcome to the fitness section of the show.
I have got my iPad, so
that can only mean one thing.
I'm going to read something from
a Reddit that we found.
So, this is from r/beginnerfitness
which we absolutely love.
And the headline on this from the poster
is, is 1200 calories a day sustainable?
I can already see your face contorting.
Haud me back. Haud me back!
As we would say in Glasgow.
Yeah.
Which means hold me back.
Hold me back, which basically means I'm
just about to go off on one.
Yeah, you're going to do your Scrappy Doo.
Yeah. Let me at him.
So, I am quoting the poster here.
They say, listen, I'm a really
big guy, like heavily obese.
I want to change it.
I am 176cm and around 120kg.
I want to at least get down to
95kg by the end of the year.
Is this possible?
If I do three months of
1200 calories a day, then slowly increase, is
this something that is sustainable?
When you do the post-production on this and edit
it, are you going to have my face boiling
with like steam and coming out of my ears?
I think I've done that before
for something like a cartoon.
It should be easy enough to do.
So, I think I should qualify
this and explain a little bit.
The reason why you're getting so angry and worked
up about this is because this is a thing.
This 1200 calorie number has come from somewhere.
Somebody came up with this idea of a 1200
calorie diet and we have heard it from people
quite often when they have initial consultations with us
as online coaches, online fitness coaches.
And yeah, it's...
It grind your gears basically because
I think you've heard it so many times now.
I would love to bitch slap the person
that came up with this 1200 calories.
Absolutely.
So first of all, I want to say like well
done to this poster who has, you know, reached out.
They're at the start of their fitness
journey and they want to get good
advice at the start, which is amazing.
You know, they're not getting into
it like blind, which is brilliant.
And again, it highlights what we talk
about quite often as all that misinformation
that's out there around nutrition and exercise.
So for this particular person, 1200 calories.
I love the fact that you
took a really big inhale there.
You're like... so. So! This is how you
know that Alan's going to let rip now.
1200 calories for this particular person is
not going to be healthy and it's
not going to be sustainable.
They are definitely going to lose a ton of weight
very, very quickly if they go on that journey.
But the first thing that I think about
is that you're going to rebound really quickly.
Yeah, because if you, especially as this person,
they're bigger, they've got a bigger frame, their
basal metabolic rate is going to be higher.
So they're going to need more calories as a
baseline anyway, just to get them through the day.
Yeah, absolutely.
Their calorie needs are going to be a lot higher.
So for an example, I was, had the flu last week.
I was on my back for most of the week.
I know you were.
Again, not in a good way.
No. But according to my Apple Watch, I
burned about 2000 calories a day.
So your body needs a minimum amount of calories.
If you lie for 24 hours and do
nothing, your body needs a lot of calories
just to function, to breathe, for your brain,
for your blood to pump around your body.
So if you're going to be eating 1200
calories, and then you're going to introduce potentially
exercise to that as well, you're going to
be in a huge, huge deficit.
And that is going to have a
really negative impact on your health, your
hormones, and it's just not sustainable.
And I would say the big one as well
is you'll wreak havoc with your metabolism as well.
So when you do kind of come out of that,
it's going to lead to a binge at the end
probably, and because your metabolism is so wrecked, it means
there's a higher likelihood that you're going to pile the
weight on even faster coming out of that.
I mean, the poster was quite transparent, and
I think they're smart enough to know.
Their main question was, is this sustainable?
And to be fair, the people who have replied to
it by a very large margin have said, absolutely not.
It's not sustainable.
And a lot of the stuff that we're saying now
has been given as advice in that thread as well.
But yeah, this is like a warning from us.
It's like a (alarm noise).
If you have heard of this
1200 calorie diet, it is not a diet.
It's not something you want to do.
It's basically a starvation plan, and
it will wreck your body.
Absolutely.
Each person has different calorie needs.
Now, if you start something like this,
1200 calories, yeah, you will lose a
lot of weight really, really quickly.
However, it is not sustainable, like we've said.
So then once it stops being successful for
you, you're going to feel like you've failed.
So what you need to do is find something that's
going to work for you, going to work for your
body, and work for, you know, the exercise that you're
potentially going to be introducing to your regime
as well.
So we always say that a 20% calorie
deficit is a good place to be.
So that's usually, works out around
about 500 calories, usually a day.
That's the best kind of deficit to be in.
But what you need to do is work out
what your calorie needs are for your expenditure, and
then work out your deficit from there.
Yeah, and obviously what we're talking
about now specifically is for somebody
who wants to lose body fat.
So they would reduce their calorie intake.
Anybody that's perhaps on a cut or somebody
that is maybe just going through a lifestyle
change and wants to lose some weight.
It's difficult to know where to begin.
So I think the reason that we do stuff like
this, we do segments like this, and we talk about
these things, is because this is real world.
Anybody who's going through that lifestyle change might
go and try to find some information about
how to lose weight, what the best way
to lose weight is, and they might come
across some very toxic misinformation on the internet.
And hopefully listening to something like
this can help us dissuade you
from being convinced by that, basically.
It is not good advice that you've heard.
If you hear 1200 calories, as
we've said, warning signs, stay away.
And there, you've outlined a totally
healthy way to do it.
What I would say is, like, if anybody feels
like all of this is overwhelming, and they do
need a bit of help, reach out for help.
I mean, that could take many, many forms.
Obviously, we have a paid service.
We have quite a lot of clients
that we help with different fitness goals.
So, it could be something like that,
or it could be a different avenue.
It could be some other form of support
that you reach out for, or some information.
But, if you're getting your information from somewhere
that is giving you advice, such as 1200
calories, that is your red flag.
Leave that straight away, and head elsewhere.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's a lot of free
calorie calculators online as well.
So, even if you just want to start with
that, if you're a bit confused as to what
your expenditure is, and then what your deficit should
be, there's loads of calculators out there that will
work that out for you.
Yeah. And we can do that for you if
you want to reach out to us.
We can work out your calories.
Although we are a paid service, we're always willing
to give people a little steer in the right
direction, and give them some help, because we like
to help people, especially in the LGBT world.
That's because that's what
we're all about, basically.
That's why we do the podcast, essentially.
It's to help to reach out to people who
perhaps maybe aren't ready or don't have the resources
to join our service at the moment.
So we like to reach a wider audience as well.
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah. So I think one piece of advice I would
give as well is if you are on a
weight loss journey or starting a weight loss journey,
just remember that it is not a sprint.
1200 calorie diet, quote unquote, might seem like a
good way to reach your target really fast, but
that's not what you want to do.
Again, the keyword here is sustainable.
Sustainability, this is for the long term.
This is a lifestyle change that you want
to make for the rest of your life.
It is a marathon, not a sprint.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with that, 100%.
The more you restrict something, the more you're going
to want it, which means that eating that amount
of calories will probably mean that you're going to
end up binging, and then again, you're going to
feel like a failure, but you haven't failed.
It's that diet, again, quote
unquote, that has failed you.
Absolutely.
Best advice we can give.
Anything else to say about this?
No, I think I've ranted enough.
What do you think?
And that's the tea.
All right, let's wrap up the show.
So, that's us for another show.
Just before we finish, I wanted
to touch on something I said.
So, obviously, Outlifting is a paid service.
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